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Tormie [ Sunday, 02 October 2005, 07:35 PM ]
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Hello friends <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/heartbeat.gif" alt="" /> ... <br /> <br /> I had recently some complains for pictures posted in the album so I'm sorry but I had to delete them and explain why to the authors. My fault that recently I'm not too much present in the album and I had to do it late... <br /> <br /> I hate to play the role of the censor and I want to explain what is considered acceptable and what not on Posetteforever. <br /> <br /> It's all in one phrase: don't go too far <br /> <br /> Posetteforever should be "PG 13", a site that should be seen by everybody without disturbance this means: <br /> <br /> -No excessive gore and violence expecially if it involves sadism. <br /> -No naked children or children showed in provoking behaviour <br /> -No use of real naked people pictures <br /> -No showing of genitals. <br /> -No use of copyrighted material <br /> <br /> I'm not discussing the artistic value of this kind of pictures, I can appreciate them, but they are not the target of Posetteforever: they can cause problems if they are shown in a public area (and I don't want to open a restricted area) and they could keep some people away from the site because they characterize it as a porn oriented one instantly. <br /> <br /> I'm very sorry for the actions that I had to take but as the webmaster here I've the main responsability fo doing this kind of things. I hope that the authors won't be offended too much <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/very_sad.gif" alt="" /> <br /> <br /> P.S. Unsticked waiting a more complete rules script
Anouk [ Sunday, 02 October 2005, 08:36 PM ]
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This is not fair to not show the genitals of men! Why is fine to look at the genital of women and not of the men? Because they are inside? What type of reason is this?
Tormie [ Sunday, 02 October 2005, 08:45 PM ]
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you're right Anouk, so, no showing of genitals at all. the men/women thing is an obvious difference and you were right pointing at it.
Christopher Lee [ Sunday, 02 October 2005, 08:53 PM ]
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Once again I see censorship is the order of the day. My friendship with Johann is of greater value to me than this site. He supported me when I was abused at Renderosity, so now I shall show my support for him by never returning to this place. Cheers
Tormie [ Sunday, 02 October 2005, 08:59 PM ]
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I'm sorry for this Christopher. <br /> <br /> Posetteforever is not a wild zone and I've to take care of the people here. <br /> I've not pointed the finger on someone in particular and explained my reasons to the authors in private.
The Captain [ Sunday, 02 October 2005, 09:01 PM ]
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It seems that the crew is abandonin' the ship, matey! I'm afraid I will leave as well!
Tormie [ Sunday, 02 October 2005, 09:16 PM ]
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Ok, take care guys, I hope for you to find a good place that fit your needs, thank you for your presence here <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/heartbeat.gif" alt="" /> !
sakuma [ Sunday, 02 October 2005, 09:19 PM ]
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I shame to be here have. My friend shamed were. I my picture not show here. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/crybaby2.gif" alt="" />
Tormie [ Sunday, 02 October 2005, 09:33 PM ]
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Hey guys, I think you're overreacting. Posetteforever is <b>NOT</b> a porn site, I'm sorry for you guys, but those rules are not something new. <br /> <br /> In the past I had to do the same, explained why to the author like now and there were not such reactions. I've not shamed anybody. So please don't throw dirt on me. <br /> <br /> In any case I've to had that the common sense rule here is "not to go too far" and I deleted and will delete the pictures that are gone too far.
TdaC [ Sunday, 02 October 2005, 09:43 PM ]
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Davide, you made the right choice <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/thumb.gif" alt="" />
Tormie [ Sunday, 02 October 2005, 09:50 PM ]
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I don't know Thilda, maybe we'll have to discuss it with other staff members...
Tormie [ Sunday, 02 October 2005, 10:35 PM ]
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Ok, I've just created a discussion group with the staff members, who are all the old dated members of PF and we will create new rules for the album. <br /> <br /> In any case I don't understand these reactions, there are dedicated sites for extreme pictures and they are simply not the style of this site.
Robert DeNiro [ Sunday, 02 October 2005, 10:55 PM ]
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Yeah. Well, I just got a rash of mail from the people here who left because they were upset. Most of them belong to a discussion group we have over at Yahoo. I can understand you want to run your own site because you're the owner and I respect that. I truly do. But you said up there that people complained about the pictures. What people? That's one thing I don't like. If I have a complaint about something I have guts enough to say it to someone and put my name to it. You say you don't understand why people reacted this way? Because we're all friends, and what happens to one, happens to all of us. I'm sure you can understand that, because you claim you did what you did to protect the people here. Well, I'm just as protective of my friends. I see you're going to start a discussion group with the older members. Well, maybe that's what this complaint stuff is all about. Someone was jealous because some people get more looks and comments than others. I guess pangor's gallery trolls or whatever the hell he calls them are alive and well here, as well as at all the other places. <br /> <br /> Maybe we'll start our own site someday, and you know what, you will be more than welcome to join, and you can rest assured no one will ever delete your pics of Posy or Cupcake or whoever you want to put up there because of a complaint from someone who doesn't have the genitals - male or female - to publicly put their name to it
Posy [ Sunday, 02 October 2005, 10:55 PM ]
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""? You do? And. Oops I sent you the wrong reply. I meet all kinds of people on here. How much does a complaint about something he or she have guts enough to say it to someone and put his or her name to it cost? Yeah I do a lot of not understand why people reacted this way. What makes you so certain? Of course I understand it. Do you understand that because you claim you did what you did to protect the people here ? That was my original intention.
Robert DeNiro [ Sunday, 02 October 2005, 10:57 PM ]
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So long, kid. You're a cool chick, and it's been nice knowing you, even if you ain't real
Tormie [ Sunday, 02 October 2005, 11:24 PM ]
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First of all Robert, I said that it was my fault not to have been present in the album and watched the picture myself before someone has to complain about it. If someone PM me it's a personal thing and at last <b>I have the only and all the responsability for the decisions</b>. If I would have watched the pictures before I would have done the same, no matter what. it was not a complain about the author but a complain about how the picture was made, with real people naked etc.. <br /> And it's obvious that the complain goes to me, it asked only if the picture was under the TOS, and it wasn't (my decision). <br /> No guts to show to someone from someone else. <br /> <br /> Assuming that I'm not "the god" and maybe my point of view could not be the right thing, so I needed to discuss about it with my trusted and older friends here, privately. I had to take sad decisions myself in the past, this is only a fresh breeze in comparison, and I don't want to be alone this time, it's not a group against another, but at least this is not even a democracy, it has never been anywhere on the net, sorry. <br /> <br /> We're talking only of the unapprovation of some too hard-to-show-here picture, not the discussion about the value of that kind of art or about the artist. I never mentioned anyone, I talked to the authors in private and I'm sure that you have not discussed the matter with him because he has not yet red my message. <br /> <br /> In conclusion Robert I hope for you and your group a happy future with your new site, I hardly can bear the "appreciation" words written by some of you in the last hours, for what concerns me, if something happens to a friend of mine I don't take the gun and begin to shot but I analyze the situation with a open mind. And if you think so you where wrong thinking that here all the kind of pictures were allowed no matter what they were showing because there were not an "adult only" seal when you first came here, like it is <b>on all adult oriented sites</b>. This is simply not that kind of site, sorry.
vonfranck [ Sunday, 02 October 2005, 11:59 PM ]
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It is Sad that the Others left, as they have sent me Messages at our Discussion Group that they took their Pictures with them. I am fortunate to have Friends like Robert and the Others. I must confess - I would like to know who the Complainers are and how it was that my Pictures were considered Pornography. All "Real People" - as you say - were created in the Poser Head Room. Complain to the Makers of Poser 5 that created such a Feature to allow such Parodies. And I had no Genital Contact in my Posts as you say. Certainly I showed Genitals, Herr Tormentor, but you best run and put a Fig Leaf over Michelangelo's "David," for his Penis is certainly there for all the Art Nazis who visit the Pride of Italy to see. I am afraid this Site is like all the Others with a Clique of small-minded People who would be more comfortable in a Fascist State as existed 65 Years ago to the shame of Europe. It seems to be quite Prevalent in Some who belong to this Group. Perhaps the Ghosts of Hitler and Mussolini and their Nordic Allies in Sweden are alive and well in the Hearts of those Who hate Nudity in Art - and call it "Pornography." Pornography? I seem to recall, Herr Tormentor, there is a Picture of some "Real Person" climbing in a Tub with a Posette Figure. A sad Thing, that what is good for Some, is not as good for Others. And really - I do not believe I will apologize to a Computer Software Program. I wonder what Herr Doctor Freud would say about such People who have a Fetish for a Poser Character called - Posy? I am certain you will remove this because you have shown your Heart of Censorship, but be sure, We will spread the Word of the Hypocrisy here - that is the Appreciation you receive . . .
Tormie [ Monday, 03 October 2005, 12:08 AM ]
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Hard words vonfranck, this is the email I sent to you, thank you to have called me and my friends fascists and nazists. <br /> <br /> [i:e52b647a9b]Hi Vonfranck. <br /> <br /> I've recently received some complains for your pictures, my fault that I was not too much on the album and have to do this thing only now. I had to delete them because they are too much for our site. I'm not against extreme nude pictures but it's not the target of our site which is "PG 13". This means essentially, no real man/woman nude character, no showing of genitals. I really know that it will offend you but I had no other chance my friend. I could open a "restricted" section on Posetteforever for this kind of pictures, but I don't want to do it because, as I said those pictures are not the target of this site. <br /> I want to give you my deep excuses vonfranck, I really hate to play the part of the censor but as the webmaster I have to it... <br /> <br /> I'll write a public post explaining better what can be done and what can't be done. [/i:e52b647a9b] <br /> <br /> Obviously after that kind of offensive language against me and my friends here you've been banned.
Anonymous [ Monday, 03 October 2005, 12:55 AM ]
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I don't understand what all this fuss is about. <br /> <br /> No one should have been suprised since, whenever someone registers at Posetteforever, they are presented with the rules, and by continuing with the registeration process they have acknowledged that they have read and accepted the rules. All actions and content issues mentioned in this thread/topic are covered by those rules. <br /> <br /> A forum for staff memebers private discussions is not such a big issue to get all worked up about. Any time you have a group of people who have the responsibility to help maintain something be it a company, a charitible organization, or a site such as Posetteforever there is a need for a channel of commuications for discussion of issues and coordination. You have heard about staff meeting at work, well this forum is like a room for staff meetings at Posetteforever. That is all that it is, nothing more and nothing less. <br /> <br /> All other sites have them too, somtimes via a forum and sometimes via a private mailing list. At Tapestery of Dreams we have such a forum. There have never been any such bad reation to it overthere. <br /> <br /> Robert, also please remember that english is not Tormentor's primary language. Here is my interpretation of what I believe Tormentor was saying about that forum. <br /> <br /> "Ok, I've just created a discussion group for discussions by the staff, all of whom are experienced members of PF. We will be revising the rules for the album so that they will be more clearly understood, so as to help avoid these sort of issues in the future." <br /> <br /> Pangor
Tormie [ Monday, 03 October 2005, 01:27 AM ]
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<blockquote class="quote"><div class="quote-nouser">Quote:</div><div class="post-text"> <br /> "Ok, I've just created a discussion group for discussions by the staff, all of whom are experienced members of PF. We will be revising the rules for the album so that they will be more clearly understood, so as to help avoid these sort of issues in the future." <br /> </div></blockquote> <br /> <br /> It's exactly my thought, thank you pangor <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/wink.gif" alt="" /> !
Ozymandias Jones [ Monday, 03 October 2005, 11:17 PM ]
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The rules of image posting have been clear for PosetteForever from the start, and the TOS is clear on the issue. If a member breaks these rules, as applied by Tormie, or any other admin, the picture is removed and the poster notified. <br /> <br /> That's it. Final. This is not a Nazi place or anything like it. But there are rules and they need to be applied for bigger reasons that artistic value. <br /> <br /> If a member cannot understand this then they should grow up and face the reality of the internet. It is not an anonymous playground, but a very real part of the larger community.
guiltypleasures [ Monday, 03 October 2005, 11:40 PM ]
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I myself posted a picture awhile back that (I now know from this issue) was against the TOS, at the time I didn't think about it being against the tos and since nobody had said anything I never assumed otherwise. I have deleted the picture I did in question because I felt it wasn't right to have it posted there if it was doing what the other person's had done, which was to break the tos. I feel this site is very liberal and never thought of us as being anything like what was said above by Robert. I haven't a problem with the picture it just belongs on another site that allows more lax rules in what can and can't be shown. There are a number of adult orientated sites for 3d artists, I for one belong to one of them, so you see I'm not a prude, I just think that the picture in question here was not right for pf's album. (I removed mine for the same reason and should thought it might be against the tos. This was not about your picture, your art style, or you personelly it was only about a type of art that is not for this site. It's too bad you have to leave, it's a great place here and even if that piece of art wasn't allowed, you could always post your art that is. <br /> <br /> GP
Anonymous [ Tuesday, 04 October 2005, 01:30 AM ]
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I agree that there should be rules. I don't think this is nazish or something (can't understand this fashion to compare everything you don't like with the nazis <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" /> ). <br /> I'm still amused that some of my pictures aren't still deleted , if Tormie decides to delete them I'll not angry or blame someone. I even think you should delete them long time ago . Exspecially <a class="post-url" href="http://www.posetteforever.com/showphoto.php?photo=2498&sort=2&cat=999&page=2">This</a> one. Even I think is gory , despite that it's not so realistic. (Real life dead bodies are much more gory ) . About the child nudity is <a class="post-url" href="http://www.posetteforever.com/showphoto.php?photo=2394&sort=2&cat=999&page=3">"Divine presence"</a> ok? The are nude children in the picture <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_shifty.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/icon_redface.gif" alt="" /> ?
tda42 [ Tuesday, 04 October 2005, 02:05 AM ]
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No erenda I don't think that is what we band around here. Children have there role with play and sometimes there are naked children in pictures. But they are not in a sexual manner. That is a whole diffirent theme of itself and I will ban Child Porn MYSELF if no one else will. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_naughty.gif" alt="" /> Your art is fine. Let your mind go because there is so much to make art from other than what I have said here. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/smile.gif" alt="" />
posfan [ Thursday, 06 October 2005, 01:07 AM ]
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I didn't see the pics which caused this trouble but I just read this topic <br /> . <br /> It should be crystal clear for you, VonFranck, that your pics will be deleted - sooner or later! <br /> <br /> 1. this is Tormie's site and he sets the Rules (which you agreed to when you signed up). <br /> <br /> 2. almost every gallery has similar rules (especially about child nudity and no genitials) so probably this pics would be banned, deleted by other sites too <br /> <br /> 3) there are adult orientated Poser sites like Renderotica just for this kind of art <br /> <br /> So, Tormie did the right thing to delete them and after your statement here to ban you!
JanReinar [ Thursday, 06 October 2005, 01:26 AM ]
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The problem this that Vonfranck, Robert De Niro, The Captain, Meiguinha, Anouk, ButchNormad, Vicent Price and Gojira are the same person. On Brazil we called this thing "Borg Group". They look like went here only to cause troubles but all the thing eneded now. <br /> <br /> In name of the Staff thanks for your support posfan! <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/smile.gif" alt="" />
guiltypleasures [ Thursday, 06 October 2005, 02:04 AM ]
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Posetteforever is a great place, and I'm glad that we still have a lot of great people here that see it as that <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/smile.gif" alt="" />
Anonymous [ Thursday, 06 October 2005, 02:26 AM ]
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There an axiom in usenet newsgroups and the fidonet echos: <br /> <br /> Axiom: Given time every argument will degenerate to at least oneside accusing the other of nazism. Then there is this corollary of it: the first person to accuse the other of nazism has lost the argument. <br /> <br /> Pangor
JanReinar [ Thursday, 06 October 2005, 04:00 AM ]
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Erenda None problem with your pics I review all of than when as locked in my office and need to say that they have a beautiful and strong force that looks like can be of your soul. Nothing that you made can be place on the same level that trouble makers you are in the superior level. You are the artist that this people think to be! <br /> <br /> They call nazi everyone who dislikes their vulgar nudity but don't know that nudity are very strong in nazi art! <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/lmao.gif" alt="" />
Anonymous [ Thursday, 06 October 2005, 05:20 AM ]
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Erenda, I agree with everything that JR said. Except I can not agree with the style of Nazi art, because, I am not familiar enough with it. <br /> <br /> Pangor
Tormie [ Thursday, 06 October 2005, 07:01 AM ]
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However I can assure to all the members of Posetteforever that we, at the Staff, are working hard to solve this situation <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_liar.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_liar.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_liar.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_liar.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_liar.gif" alt="" /> ...
JanReinar [ Thursday, 06 October 2005, 12:23 PM ]
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My grandfather was a military aid in Brazilian Embassy in Berlin from 1936 to 1938. He take many photos of sculptures and make a hand album with them. This album had the dates when the sculptures were done most from 1934 to 1937. Many of this sculptures were nude in idealist style to show the perfection of superior race bodies!
JanReinar [ Thursday, 06 October 2005, 12:27 PM ]
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<blockquote class="quote"><div class="quote-user">Tormentor";p="25478 wrote: </div><div class="post-text">However I can assure to all the members of Posetteforever that we, at the Staff, are working hard to solve this situation <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_liar.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_liar.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_liar.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_liar.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_liar.gif" alt="" /> ...</div></blockquote> <br /> <br /> Why the <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_liar.gif" alt="" /> ! You are working hard to solve this :badwords:! All of us know it! <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_clap.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_clap.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_clap.gif" alt="" />
Anonymous [ Thursday, 06 October 2005, 06:38 PM ]
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I agree with JR, I didn't notice which smilies you had used becase I had animation turned off here. Now I have turned it on and do not agree with the smilies that you used. <br /> <br /> Pangor
Tormie [ Thursday, 06 October 2005, 07:03 PM ]
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Oh! I was joking as usual <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/nicetongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/nicetongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/nicetongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/nicetongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/nicetongue.gif" alt="" />
Anonymous [ Thursday, 06 October 2005, 07:46 PM ]
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<img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/lol.gif" alt="" /> I thought so, but recent events have had their effects on us. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/very_sad.gif" alt="" /> <br /> <br /> In a few days, maybe, in one day my humor will return to normal. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/wink.gif" alt="" /> <br /> <br /> Pangor
Tormie [ Thursday, 06 October 2005, 07:51 PM ]
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I agree pangor, however it has been a good thing. It was the occasion for me to awake fron lazyness and do some changes for the security of the site and added the staff forum which has given new ideas for the right way to manage the site <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/thumb.gif" alt="" /> , thanks friends <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/smile.gif" alt="" />
Anonymous [ Friday, 07 October 2005, 01:48 AM ]
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<blockquote class="quote"><div class="quote-nouser">Quote:</div><div class="post-text"> <br /> The problem this that Vonfranck, Robert De Niro, The Captain, Meiguinha, Anouk, ButchNormad, Vicent Price and Gojira are the same person. <br /> </div></blockquote> <br /> <br /> WoW if it's true I must admit that this person is smart (I'm not trying to offend anyone ). I mean this person spearks french , a perfect french and probably german. (Even if s/he doesnot s/he knows that the nouns in german have to be written with majuscule). Though I'm an "actress" (realized it days ago) I can't play so many roles at once , even virtual roles. <br /> But I really couldn't understand what was the point doing all this? There should be a point , right? <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" />
Anonymous [ Friday, 07 October 2005, 02:14 AM ]
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By the way <a class="post-url" href="http://www.goodart.org/artofnz.htm" target="_blank">Here</a> are some examples of nazi art . Guess what. There is nudity!
JanReinar [ Friday, 07 October 2005, 02:19 AM ]
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Thanks for this erenda! <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/lol.gif" alt="" />
JanReinar [ Friday, 07 October 2005, 02:23 AM ]
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<blockquote class="quote"><div class="quote-user">erenda";p="25541 wrote: </div><div class="post-text"><blockquote class="quote"><div class="quote-nouser">Quote:</div><div class="post-text"> <br /> The problem this that Vonfranck, Robert De Niro, The Captain, Meiguinha, Anouk, ButchNormad, Vicent Price and Gojira are the same person. <br /> </div></blockquote> <br /> <br /> WoW if it's true I must admit that this person is smart (I'm not trying to offend anyone ). I mean this person spearks french , a perfect french and probably german. (Even if s/he doesnot s/he knows that the nouns in german have to be written with majuscule). Though I'm an "actress" (realized it days ago) I can't play so many roles at once , even virtual roles. <br /> But I really couldn't understand what was the point doing all this? There should be a point , right? <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" /></div></blockquote> <br /> <br /> Not too smart he or she cloud did something like it: <br /> <br /> In a Brazilian fanfic Forum one of the moderators remove one of his only "drones" who had post a very explicit X-Men Cyclops rated XXX gay fic acount after change some messages <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/new_cussing.gif" alt="" /> what make "Vonfranck" a very kind person. He cause a great mess on the forum with some of the "drones" support the moderator and some other support the nasty member all with very <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/new_cussing.gif" alt="" /> messages. The real members had started take sides and more <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/new_cussing.gif" alt="" /> messages. That guy must be crazy!
Anonymous [ Friday, 07 October 2005, 03:57 AM ]
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I hae seen such situations too. In he preinternet telephone connected computer bulliten board systems, and in the newsgroups. One person had about 100 "drones", it worked for a while then he started getting mixed up as to which one said what. The he retired some of them etc etc etc. Each time someone identified one of his drones, he through one or more of them would go on the attack accusing the discoverer of insanity or something else. When proof was offered, he would accuse them of being Nazis and/or Communists. <br /> <br /> Pangor
Tormie [ Friday, 07 October 2005, 06:00 AM ]
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I think these persons are sick, in a certain way I'm sorry for them <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/very_sad.gif" alt="" /> .
JanReinar [ Friday, 07 October 2005, 10:46 AM ]
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I agree Davide they are sick! So sick that "VonFranck" could not follow the "Borg Group First Rule" "Always keep the most part of the group out the brawl and made some support the administrators"! "He" own lack of wise turns the things more easy for us!
Anonymous [ Friday, 07 October 2005, 06:15 PM ]
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Maybe that is why "they" had to run from at least two other sites already. It is amazing how much effort these sort of people will put into maintaining their multiple false identities. I have known of people who have tried to deal with some of them by responding to each post and refuting false claims in each of them, and they could not keep up with all of the drone postings. For one of them from the newsgroups, I was able to determine that he was posting on average one article every 3 minutes for 14 hours a day, seven days a week! <br /> <br /> One of them used the X-No-Archive header on all of his articles, posted from multiple ISP, he had accounts with over 15 ISPs, but he kept forgetting to which personality was using which service provider. He used a single newsreade and also forgot that his news reader added a "X-Sender" and a "Reply-To" header to his articles with a single hotmail email address listed by those headers. <br /> <br /> So much effort is expended by those sort of people to appear to be so many, but they always make mistakes sooner or latter. I feel sad for them but even more sad for the people who they hurt by their actions. <br /> <br /> Pangor
Tormie [ Saturday, 08 October 2005, 07:17 AM ]
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Ok friends, the main topic here is why I deleted those pictures. Probably I was wrong because I've done it myself and even if I own the site I've already decided to enlarge the number of people who will decide for those things to all the staff members (moderators and administrators). We (pangor in particular) have the new rules ready for publishing and it will be done before monday. <br /> <br /> After the reaction of the author of the pictures we made a little control all around and so discovered that all this group is a single individual, because it's difficult that a girl from France or a guy from Japan would have connected here with the same ip address who belongs from Pittsburg or from New Jersey, at least from the U.S.A. <br /> And it was very strange that they reacted all together <b>but</b> one after another. These members went to the album, deleted all their pictures but never logged in at the same moment, never. <br /> <br /> So actually I've banned all of them, except the main identity, the first one who connected here and started his game. <br /> <br /> Plus, I revised the code of the site and add a code who tries to stop connections coming from proxy servers, then I banned the ip addresses of the most known "anonymizers" and prohibited the use of free email like msn, yahoo, aol and so on. If someone has not ather chances than using them, please contact me. <br /> <br /> Actually we're very sorry for that user who showed to us that he is probably very sick <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/very_sad.gif" alt="" /> and we hope for him to find some relief elsewhere even if he showed to us what he really think of a site like our that was friendly and warm to him. <br /> <br /> This kind of things can happen and probably will happen again, but now it's time to go back to normal operations here <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/lol.gif" alt="" /> ! <br /> <br /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/sleepey.gif" alt="" /> <br /> <br /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/icon_redface.gif" alt="" />
Anonymous [ Saturday, 08 October 2005, 08:51 AM ]
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Thank you for all your efforts. <br /> <br /> Now the incident is in the past, I hope that it will fade away like a bad dream when the morning sun arrives. As Tormentor said, it is time to go back to normal. I have begun doing that already. Today I completed and uploaded into the album my first finished picture in weeks. I need to work on one or two more, then I plan to visit the album as a viewer and get caught up with the works that all of your have uploaded there in the last month or so. <br /> <br /> I hope none of you felt that I have been ignoring your works, it is just that I have been a bit overwhelmed. Posfan, I know you have been active in the galleries and yet I have not been able to view any of your works there yet. Well, I will soon. <br /> <br /> Pangor
JanReinar [ Saturday, 08 October 2005, 11:26 AM ]
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Hey Pangor! All of us know how hard you and Davide work to fix this mess! Don't worry about everthing! <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/thumb.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_clap.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_clap.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_clap.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_clap.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_clap.gif" alt="" />
JanReinar [ Saturday, 08 October 2005, 11:54 AM ]
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<blockquote class="quote"><div class="quote-user">Tormentor";p="25623 wrote: </div><div class="post-text">Ok friends, the main topic here is why I deleted those pictures. Probably I was wrong because I've done it myself and even if I own the site I've already decided to enlarge the number of people who will decide for those things to all the staff members (moderators and administrators). <br /> </div></blockquote> <br /> <br /> I can think you wrong Davide my friend <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/heartbeat.gif" alt="" /> ! That "guy"(?) or "web ghost" or "cyber creature" had violate TOS and you did what you have to do! I always support you in this things! <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/thumb.gif" alt="" /> <br /> <br /> And just little point if "VonFranck" was not a real member he is only a fake ID have no right to complain is if "he" don't exist! <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/wink.gif" alt="" />
Tormie [ Saturday, 08 October 2005, 01:26 PM ]
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We worked together for this thing friends <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/heartbeat.gif" alt="" /> I'm only the one who can modify the code of the site.


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