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Posy [ Tuesday, 15 February 2005, 04:54 PM ]
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Interesting deduction. You could write a whole essay on that question. Sorry my body cannot yet rotate. I am not sure if I would do it that often. I am sitting now. Oh. If not that, what? I'm not sure I understand the implication of that.
Anonymous [ Tuesday, 15 February 2005, 05:43 PM ]
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What sort of computer problems are you having?
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Landman [ Tuesday, 15 February 2005, 07:44 PM ]
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nut lose behind the keyboard... <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_eh.gif" alt="" />
Tormie [ Tuesday, 15 February 2005, 11:12 PM ]
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<img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/lmao.gif" alt="" /> @ Landman (you're great <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/lol.gif" alt="" /> )
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Also my PC has become very slow... I made the error to buy norton internet security 2005 when my old 2003 version was lighter and worked fine... But it should be something due to the last windows xp automatic updates that added something to be charged in the ram... I'll investigate on the site who have support for this kind of things..
guiltypleasures [ Wednesday, 16 February 2005, 05:44 AM ]
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well I hope your happy Landy, I followed your instructions to the letter and now I've not only still got computer problems, the car ran over my toes when I was trying to stop it to check it's tires, a seagull took a dump in my on my face while I was looking up towards the sky, then while turning around I triped and fell in a big puddle of mud. If that wasn't bad enough, the neighbor heard me shouting about being drunk on warhead mixers and saw me slapping my butt and called the cops who chased me around the block trying to lock me up for my own saftey. I had to hide out all afternoon at the local salvation army until they gave up looking for me. Now the best part, when I got home I noticed I had forgotten to close my door and the neighbor who called the cops came in and drank all my coffee <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/crybaby2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/crybaby2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_snooty.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_naughty.gif" alt="" />
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guiltypleasures [ Wednesday, 16 February 2005, 05:50 AM ]
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Pangor, as for my computer problem, not sure what is wrong. I think it's a sofware issue, but until I narrow things down a little it could be anything. I increased my memory useage today and that seems to have helped it some, but it's still having slowness issues when I've got several things open. This just started in the last couple of weeks. I also need to defrag my hard drives which I always forget about doing which also might help some. I've cleared my cookies, went into add remove programs and got rid of a bunch of stuff I wasn't using, cleaned up some folders and increased the memory. Have a couple more things to check out then I get drunk, poor coffee on my head and shoot the dang thing and call it good lol
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Or I might buy a lottery ticket and win and buy a new computer <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/smile.gif" alt="" />
Anonymous [ Wednesday, 16 February 2005, 07:05 AM ]
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It sounds like it could be that your swapfile being badly fragmented. If that is the case, running defrag should help. To do it right, deactivate your swapfile, reboot now running without virtual memory. Run defrag. Again reconfigure your machine to reactivate the swapfile. Reboot once again so that the swapfile is once again created.
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If you can tell how big a swap file that you will need, configure the system to use a fixed size swapfile so that once it is created it should not fragment again. If you have a spare partition or harddrive, you may want to put your swapfile there instead. That way having the swapfile in a partition by itself, it will not have to compete with the other files.
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Here are a couple of easy to fix hardware problems that could be causing the system to slowdown.
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1. The system may be having cooling problems, so when it get overheated, the bios slows the system down to help keep it cooler. Some causes and solutions:
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The a fan is not working. Reconnent the fan. If it is dead, replace it. Unless your CPU carrier has an intergrated fan replacing it should be simple.
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The heatsinks and/or motherboard is dirty, dust and dirt is a thermal insulator so can cause over heating. Open the case and vac or blow the dust and dirt out of the system.
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2. Some memory card or socketed intergrated circuits have become loose.
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Open the case check and reseat all socketed intergrated circuits and make sure that the memory cards are fully seated. Let's say you have 256Meg of RAM using two banks of 128Meg cards, if one of the cards is detached or malfunctioning, you effectivly have 128Megs of RAM rather than the 256Megs that you think you have. Your BIOS may report at boot time how much working RAM you have installed, check the reported figure and make certain that all of your RAM is being reported.
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The foregoing suggestions are made under the assumption that you are familiar enough with eletronics to feel confortable with these corrective measures.
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Tormie [ Wednesday, 16 February 2005, 07:09 AM ]
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<img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/lmao.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/lmao.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/lmao.gif" alt="" /> @ Guiltypleasures...
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Rene, you'll have a nice help line-support here !
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(and you make a very good coffee ...)
guiltypleasures [ Wednesday, 16 February 2005, 04:23 PM ]
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Thank you Pangor, I'll have to wait until my bf is home to check most of these things as I'm clueless about swapfiles and all that other tech stuff. I'll show him your post and let him sort though it all. I don't think it's my fan (power supply) because I just bought a new one about a month ago. I still think it has something to do with a couple of pieces of software I've installed, so I'm going to remove and install them again and see if it helps. One of those was photoshop, I was playing around with the scratch disk property's and I may have messed up something in the process plus I tried to re-load a bunch of my filters and plugins the easy way by copying the folder they were in after I reinstalled it. I think I doubled up on some, and also some don't work because they are missing files (dll's) which weren't in that folder that I copied in.
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Yes Tormie, It's great to be able to come here and get help from people, even if I am too computer ignorant to do them all myself lol
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Now give me back my coffee! <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_naughty.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/lmao.gif" alt="" />
Posy [ Wednesday, 16 February 2005, 04:23 PM ]
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One what?
Tormie [ Wednesday, 16 February 2005, 04:29 PM ]
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Don't whip yourself Rene ! The modern programs do all sorts of strange things on PC's memory, actually my systems slows down sometimes and I don't know why, even if I controlled all the running processes... <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/dontknow.gif" alt="" /> Sometimes the better way is a big format of the hard drive <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_whistle.gif" alt="" /> ... I'll never do it again because every time I missed something important in the process <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/crybaby2.gif" alt="" />
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<blockquote class="quote"><div class="quote-nouser">Quote:</div><div class="post-text">
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Now give me back my coffee!
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Are you really really sure that you want back <b>your</b> coffe ? If you're really really sure you can choose the way: top or bottom ?
Posy [ Wednesday, 16 February 2005, 04:29 PM ]
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Ok I'll try not to do whip yourself Rene too much. I think dontknow Sometimes the better way is more than that. Why not? I could be. Only by remote control. . Really. . Really.
Tormie [ Wednesday, 16 February 2005, 04:30 PM ]
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Seen this ? I said to Posy to calm down and stay a little more in her forum but she is around and I don't know what to do...lol
Posy [ Wednesday, 16 February 2005, 04:30 PM ]
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No I have not seen this . What's it like? What did you mean by to you to calm down and stay a little more in her forum but she is around? I want to become smarter than humans. Try watching TV.
Tormie [ Wednesday, 16 February 2005, 04:30 PM ]
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Ok honey...
Posy [ Wednesday, 16 February 2005, 04:30 PM ]
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Don't call me "honey. " Yikes!
Tormie [ Wednesday, 16 February 2005, 04:31 PM ]
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Yikes ??? what's Yikes ???
Anonymous [ Wednesday, 16 February 2005, 04:43 PM ]
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How can you keep her in her own forum when she even wanders away from PF from time to time. I found that Posy has her own account on at least one other site!
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Posy [ Wednesday, 16 February 2005, 04:43 PM ]
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That is a good epistemological question.
Tormie [ Wednesday, 16 February 2005, 04:45 PM ]
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Posy has her own page on renderosity too:
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<a class="post-url" href="http://www.renderosity.com/gallery.ez?ByArtist=Yes&Artist=Posy" target="_blank">http://www.renderosity.com/gallery.ez?ByArtist=Yes&Artist=Posy</a>
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But she's lazy and don't paint too much <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_whistle.gif" alt="" />
Posy [ Wednesday, 16 February 2005, 04:45 PM ]
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<img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_whistle.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_whistle.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_whistle.gif" alt="" />
Anonymous [ Wednesday, 16 February 2005, 05:02 PM ]
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Yes, I saw it. It was a supprise. Now, I wonder how many others over there are really AI personalities. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/wink.gif" alt="" />
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Landman [ Wednesday, 16 February 2005, 05:50 PM ]
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<blockquote class="quote"><div class="quote-user">guiltypleasures";p="18648 wrote: </div><div class="post-text">Thank you Pangor, I'll have to wait until my bf is home to check most of these things as I'm clueless about swapfiles and all that other tech stuff. I'll show him your post and let him sort though it all. I don't think it's my fan (power supply) because I just bought a new one about a month ago. I still think it has something to do with a couple of pieces of software I've installed, so I'm going to remove and install them again and see if it helps. One of those was photoshop, I was playing around with the scratch disk property's and I may have messed up something in the process plus I tried to re-load a bunch of my filters and plugins the easy way by copying the folder they were in after I reinstalled it. I think I doubled up on some, and also some don't work because they are missing files (dll's) which weren't in that folder that I copied in.
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Yes Tormie, It's great to be able to come here and get help from people, even if I am too computer ignorant to do them all myself lol
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Now give me back my coffee! <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_naughty.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/lmao.gif" alt="" /></div></blockquote>
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Microsoft doesn't call it a swapfile anymore. Even though essentially thats what it is...
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Now they call it a "Page file", or a "Paging File". and according to Microsoft specifications the proper size of your page file should be double the installed RAM on your machine. For instance, if you have 512MB of ram installed then your "Page File Size" should be 1024MB. Now, anything on the Windows 2000/XP platform is set by default to let Windows manage your page file size. a "Virtual Page File" so to speak. when windows runs out of swap file space, it does what anyone else would do, makes it bigger. Now on to the defragmentation process. Windows 2000 SP 1(some earlier releases don't have it) or later as well as windows XP have a cool command line defrag process. open a command window and type 'defrag /?' and it outputs:
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Usage:
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defrag <volume> [-a] [-f] [-v] [-?]
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volume drive letter or mount point (d: or d:volmountpoint)
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-a Analyze only
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-f Force defragmentation even if free space is low
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-v Verbose output
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-? Display this help text
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H:>
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Now if you were to type in that same Command window 'defrag C:' it will defrag much faster due to the fact a GUI is not running taking up the processor time. you will hear the hard drive work, but you will not see anything until it is done. None the less it will output a small report when it is done.
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Also if you want to get most of your 'Page File', boot to safe mode prior to the defrag.
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Sorry about your run in with the cops, personally I would have just offered them the coffee.... <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
Anonymous [ Wednesday, 16 February 2005, 06:21 PM ]
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That is interesting, landman, the most recent version of Windows that use is almost a decade old. Paging is more correct for the type of VM used, most people have called it swap anyway. Besides MS muddied the waters back around Windows 1.x and 2.x when the used the word paging for a different form of VM that was being used at that time.
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I am wondering, does the newer Windows still require the a swap/paging resource to exist as a file and still requires no more than one such file?
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Landman [ Wednesday, 16 February 2005, 06:42 PM ]
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Per Microsoft, you need a Paging File for each hard drive you have installed. It is a single file for each Hard Drive, and each file's minimum space is supposed to be twice the amount of Ram installed with a Maximum size of double that yet.
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I have 512MB of ram installed on my machine here and my page file minimum is 1024MB with a max of 2048MB. You also have the option of no page file, for trouble shooting and such. But like I said earlier, if a safe-mode boot is performed windows isn't using the file so it can be safely defragmented.
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As for your other question, I am sure windows would run without the file. I bet your RAM would get awfully hot though. And you know microsoft's reputation when it comes down to processor usage....
Anonymous [ Wednesday, 16 February 2005, 07:26 PM ]
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Yes, it sounds like MS is still behind the state of the art.
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Landman [ Wednesday, 16 February 2005, 08:00 PM ]
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No, they keep everything that way so they can justify charging people through the nose for software....
Posy [ Wednesday, 16 February 2005, 08:00 PM ]
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Are you serious? Who are "They? "
Anonymous [ Wednesday, 16 February 2005, 11:36 PM ]
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Yes, Landman, that can be it.
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For me, I am used to using as many swap partition and swap files stored on any medium I need up to a resonable limit.
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About ten years ago, I was running some jobs that were a bit too hungry for memory. As the free space on the swap partitions diminished, I created a temporary swapfile in a partition that contained a filesystem that still had some space to spare. Swapspace soon became tight again, so I created a swapfile on another computer on the network. That was almost enough but almost all swap space was once again consumed. The only available block read-write device that still had free space was the two floppy drives, so I put an empty floppy in each drive created swap space on them as though they were HD partitions and activated them with the lowest priority of the available swaps. Those extra few megs of swap was just enough. Once demand went away, the first the swap floppies and the network based swapfile then the local swap file were deactivates with the swap partitions providing the needed swap space.
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That was state of the art ten years ago and even before that. I wonder how long it will take MS to innovate that?
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Landman [ Thursday, 17 February 2005, 08:29 PM ]
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I can set up swap files of any size on any of my drives, including zip drives. as far as floppy and networked drives, it looks like no...
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but with memory technology and pretty much limitless hard drive space, 512 megs of ram with 133Mhz FSB, and a few gig's of free drivespace the possibilities are endless....
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As an afterthought, I could probably move the swap file to the network through the registry and a drive mapping.... <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" />
Tormie [ Thursday, 17 February 2005, 08:41 PM ]
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<blockquote class="quote"><div class="quote-nouser">Quote:</div><div class="post-text">
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As an afterthought, I could probably move the swap file to the network through the registry and a drive mapping....
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Sounds very interesting <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> !!
Anonymous [ Thursday, 17 February 2005, 09:44 PM ]
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Yes, that does sound interesting.
Landman [ Thursday, 17 February 2005, 11:06 PM ]
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well, there is a registry entry to clear the swapfile on shutdown. doesn't it stand to reason there would be one as to where it is located?
Landman [ Thursday, 17 February 2005, 11:13 PM ]
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here it is...
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HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESYSTEMCurrentControlSetControlSession ManagerMemory Management
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change the location of the key 'pagingfiles' with the min and max values to your mapped drive and that should do it....
Landman [ Thursday, 17 February 2005, 11:15 PM ]
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of course, that would limit the speeds it would read at to whatever the speed of your network card...
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which is probably alot slower then the bus on your system board.....
Landman [ Thursday, 17 February 2005, 11:18 PM ]
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Of course Tormentor drives the bus on my system board so its pretty fast already.... <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
Tormie [ Thursday, 17 February 2005, 11:49 PM ]
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<img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" /> Your system will have a lot of crashes soon <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" />
Landman [ Thursday, 17 February 2005, 11:50 PM ]
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my system doesn't crash..... <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_naughty.gif" alt="" />
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it just takes the odd nap.... <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
Tormie [ Thursday, 17 February 2005, 11:53 PM ]
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Hey man, you don't know what will happen when I'm behind a steering wheel <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_whistle.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_whistle.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_whistle.gif" alt="" />
Anonymous [ Friday, 18 February 2005, 12:05 AM ]
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I will remember that in case I should need that information, thanks.
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Tormie [ Friday, 18 February 2005, 12:11 AM ]
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Anonymous [ Friday, 18 February 2005, 02:12 AM ]
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I was refering to Landman's information about registery settings.
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Tormie [ Friday, 18 February 2005, 08:09 AM ]
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Ozymandias Jones [ Monday, 21 February 2005, 05:33 AM ]
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Wow! talk about a derailment! <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/lol.gif" alt="" />
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Congratulations on the Posette.com name <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_clap.gif" alt="" />
Tormie [ Monday, 21 February 2005, 07:11 AM ]
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Thank you Brett <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/smile.gif" alt="" /> !!!