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Getting harder to find new 'off the peg' freebies for Posette, and I'm discovering that my 3D modelling skills --and patience-- are not up to crafting smart outfits... <br /> <br /> But, out there are two (2) rival products which will convert conforming garments between figures... <br /> <br /> I like PCooke's Wardrobe Wizard's style, especially as it will run stand-alone. <br /> <br /> I like EvilInnocence's CrossDresser's pricing as I'd only need two licences --for conversions TO P4M & P4F... <br /> <br /> Thoughts ?? <br /> <br /> Background is that a lot of the costumes I need to visualise my story are Fantasy / Anime-ish. I could use Aiko3, MayaDoll, M3 etc as body-doubles but, like hiding poke-through limbs is a last resort, I would prefer to keep everything 'strictly' P4F/M... <br /> <br /> For one thing, I must watch the polygon counts, and DAZ' folk are very complex...

CrossDresser to me is great. Also the good person on the site is making some nice Posette clothes. You always support the one that is giving you something nice in return. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/thumb.gif" alt="" />

That's good information: tda42 said I always support the one that is giving me something nice in return.

Thanks, Posy & tda42, for those words of wisdom !! <br /> <br /> Happens I've just had a kind reply to my pre-purchase enquiry... <br /> <br /> ==quote== <br /> No, you don't need to be online in order to use CrossDresser. <br /> Yes, XD is compatible with Poser 4. <br /> Please let me know if you have any other questions. <br /> =unquote=

Thanks for asking politely. Go ahead, Nik, try to know if you have any other questions.

Hi, do we know if EI's CD can convert dynamic clothes ? <br /> <br /> {FX: ###!! Aaagh, forum editor ate an exceptionally eloquent paragraph... } <br /> <br /> Ok, if a 'dynamic' garment is a pre-grouped OBJ iteratively tweaked by clothes-room to fit one (1) character, then both PC's WW and EI's CD must use a similar system, starting with *anything*-- Even garments intended to conform to the target character ?? <br /> <br /> Can EI's CD 're-cut' GG's infamous P4 gowns, wonderfully cut and ornamented, but notorious for their misfits and poke-throughs ??

Thats a good question but I think you still can make it dynamic when you convert the obj. file. <br /> As for the reason of being on line with the software. The first version required an on line activation. Which was in my way of thinking didn't make a lot of sense. Things like Microsoft and other high end software I could see this but this software being free and a PC that you are going to have off line was starting to be a big headache. Some people have PCs off line because of the large amount of things in them. So the makers decided to make a version that didn't require the activation. Now I am talking about the first question about Crassdresser. I am not sure about EI's CD. But Poser 5 will do the set up on Dynamic clothing but that is for 5,6,and 7. Poser 3 and 4 will not do Dynamics. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_clap.gif" alt="" /> Power to the people. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/notworthy.gif" alt="" /> <br /> <br /> A final note here. If you have any clothing you can use Crossdresser to cloth any Posette. So I would look at other cloth models with better quality to put on your Posette. I do it all the time. Hope this helps you NIK. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/thumb.gif" alt="" />

Thanks tda42 ! <br /> <br /> I don't want dynamic clothing, but there's some nice freebies in that format... <br /> <br /> Um, looks like P_7 is staying in box for several months more-- I don't have time to learn it...

I don't know the other software but CD works fine. I prefer dynamic dresses BTW, they don't need to be converted because they are... dynamic <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> , just scale the body of the character into one of them and "inflate" it in the animation and the dress will fit the body , there are a couple of tutorials about it on the forum.

Okay, after much grumbling and doubt, I've decided to get C-D... <br /> <br /> Ahead of choosing WW / C-D / wait, I've gathered some interesting outfits from Renderosity, have ear-marked some stuff from old down-loads. Okay, they're not haute couture, at best they're fantasy / anime, but that suits the surreal tale I'm trying to visualise... <br /> <br /> If I have any success --I've not yet found best characters for P4F & P4M-- I'll post some piccies. <br /> <br /> Just... <br /> Please don't laugh ??

Nik we don't laugh at artist unless they are intended to be funny. You are at home here and everyone has and still are trying to reach a goal. Me included. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/redembarrassed.gif" alt="" /> So lets get out the Poser software and blow something up. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/focus.gif" alt="" />

Amen to that, brother.

When I converted the shoes for P4NudeMan, then I obtained a leaky shoes. <br /> I do not mind the money spent on the licenses, I feel sorry for lost time. :-( <br /> <br /> <a href="http://pro-poser.info/forum/uploads/monthly_08_2011/post-44-1312566298.jpg" target="_blank" title="Click to open image in new window"><img src="http://pro-poser.info/forum/uploads/monthly_08_2011/post-44-1312566298.jpg" alt="Image" title="Image" /></a>

...That is illegal Poser-User <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_naughty.gif" alt="" /> , this is not that kind of site, you're warned...

poser user wrote: I need the license of models P4 Male and P4 Female. <br /> <br /> <br /> With all that you have got there I would think you would buy the others. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/ph34r.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" />

Um, after several attempts, I can say that EvilInnocence currently have a problem with their purchase system, which does not allow any alternative to US state list in address field. If you live outside US / Territories, address <span style="color: #ff000c;">cannot</span> match card-holder, so purchase fails... <br /> <br /> {FX : Aaaargh !!! } <br /> <br /> I've queried this as politely as possible...

<img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" /> I bought both licences for posette and dork with CC and I had no problems, I don't remember the form, usually you've to select "country" and then the selections for the US states disappears...

P.S. Damn, you Ip appears like if you come from Germany Nik... I've to fix the database of IP addresses <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_doh.gif" alt="" /> ...

{quote} <br /> <br /> Hi Nik, <br /> I'm sorry for the inconvenience. Some international customer (in the UK in particular) have had success getting around address verification errors by leaving the entire address section blank. I also added a 'None Selected' option to the state and country field. Let me know if that helps. <br /> -andy <br /> <br /> {/quote} <br /> <br /> Given that I e-mailed EvilInnocence late on Saturday night, that is *very* nimble wwweb-weaving !! <br /> <br /> I will report developments... <br /> <br /> Meanwhile, I've collected some, um, whimsical garments for possible adaptation to P4M & P4M: Should be a good laugh, may even be done in time for Carnivale...

<img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/thumb.gif" alt="" /> nice people there

EI's CD shop system's been patched, but is still not behaving for me: They are investigating further. <br /> <br /> When I checked the re-sellers, PoserPros, Renderosity etc only have licenses for a few 3rd-party figures such as Dollie...

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While EI warily investigate hang-up in their 'secure system', we're going to Plan_B. <br /> <br /> I'll send EI a check/cheque to buy gift-vouchers, then use those... <br /> <br /> I'm just glad I'm not working to a deadline !!

Why don't you use Paypal at EI's shop? It works fine. And you should sign up for the newsletter overthere.usually it has a coupon code included. The amount deducted ranges between 10 - 15% normally. So you even get the licenses cheaper. <br /> <br /> I have several CD Licenses (ok I won the first 10 licenses in a contest months ago) and I'm happy with the prog, especially since they added Head/Hand/Feet support aka it converts shoes nicely. In the end it saves a lot of money. One only needs to buy one outfit and convert to other figures instead of buying the same outfit for several figures. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/ayeah.gif" alt="" />

Each time I've tried to use Paypal or ebay, everything went wrong... <br /> <br /> It's a gift.

What is your problem with paypal? EI's store uses a paypal concept I don't like, but it works. You can PM me if you don't want to state this in this thread.

EI have confirmed receipt of my up-front snail-mail payment, credited account. <br /> <br /> However, over-night, my father-in-law has fallen and broken his hip, so my experimenting with CD must wait.

I'm sorry for your father-in-law Nik <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/sad.gif" alt="" /> I hope he will be well soon <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_pray.gif" alt="" /> ...

FIL had Partial hip replacement this afternoon ( 3+1/2 hours !!! ), is safely back on ward, phoned home, sounds okay. <br /> :heartbeat: <br /> Thank you for kind thoughts. <br /> --- <br /> We cannot visit for a few days --need sitter for MIL-- so I google translated PoserclubJP's registration page and downloaded some freebies. IIRC, there was only one (1) P4F freebie, the old Valis suit, but I collected several items to try with EI's CD program. <br /> <br /> If / When I get CD working, I'll try to keep a list of what exotica will or won't convert...

EI's C-D program and licences all 'phone home' at registration, so I had to install them and Poser-4 on this light-weight Browser-PC... <br /> <br /> Put it this way-- Poser did not need the 'Large Memory' patch !! <br /> <br /> Also, this Browser-PC is v-e-r-y _ s-l-o-w compared to the other's 3 GHz and interleaved RAM, and I can only work on one screen instead of the CAD-PC's two... <br /> <br /> And, yes, Poser keeps trying to phone out, sending my paranoid fire-wall into hysterics... <br /> <br /> Anyway, grumbles aside, I've unpacked and installed a couple of garments, begun experimenting... <br /> <br /> First issue is that you *MUST* know which figure the original garment was meant to clad. <br /> Okay, this is often obvious from the thumbnail, but a lot of old freebies just say 'Vicky' or 'V' without a #1, 2, 3 etc. Also, unsupported 'variants' such as 'Sassy' or 'Latexa' may cause problems as morphs do not transfer. Fortunately, the date is a fair clue, and doing quick conversions on low-quality setting should soon show which gets closest... <br /> <br /> D'uh, why does no-one put REMs in their CR2 ?? <br /> <br /> I have not yet tried 'fixing' old P4F freebies directly or by conversion to eg P4M then back again as they are all on the other PC... <br /> <br /> Second, poke-though corrections: I'm still learning. <br /> I began with a modest A3 uniform --Not the Klingon Kit !!-- and coaxed it to fit Posette. I've beaten all the gaps except for two rib edges in lower back, will try the morphs next. <br /> --- <br /> <br /> FIL is making good progress, is being chivvied by eager 'Physio-Terrorists', has sat out and is eating well. Only snag is they must taper his pain relief, so he will no longer be amused by hallucinations of a small black cat nimbly leaping from bin-lid to bed-frame to window-sill and back as he's falling asleep...

OK I will put it there.

That is good news about Fil. As for the cat. Yah! I would tell it to back off unless it wants to get slammed against a brick wall or something. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/redembarrassed.gif" alt="" />

Weird... <br /> <br /> So far, based on a dozen or so garments, mostly A3 to P4F... <br /> <br /> 1) Changing the poke-through settings makes no difference that I can see... <br /> <br /> 2) About half of the long gowns, skirts or robes are cut off at hip height... <br /> ( I've seen this happen when modelling program re-writes OBJ in different order... ) <br /> <br /> 3) Shoes confuse it... <br /> <br /> Um, how do I stop Poser_4 trying to phone home every couple of minutes ?? I've renamed the directory with the web-links, but it still tries to dial out...

Aaaaarrrrgh !!! <br /> <br /> About 0430, I woke with a yell, "Must delete holey RSR !!" <br /> <br /> No wonder garments didn't change when I altered the PokeThrough settings-- They were working from the *first* OBJ RSR created by CD, the holey one... <br /> <br /> D'uh...

Deleting the geometries' RSR and forcing a re-draw on modified OBJ gave this catwalk monster. <br /> <br /> Um, guess where I was trying to stop poke-through...

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very interesting <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" /> . Does it flies ? <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/lmao.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/lmao.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/lmao.gif" alt="" />

Looks like the Michelin Tire woman. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/lmao.gif" alt="" />

Okay, I cleaned out all my earlier experiments and began again. These are medium quality conversions of Taruru's neat AD&MD 01 Set. I had to push socks', then shoes' poke-through settings to ~0.35 to fix heels of socks, then sides of shoe, but shirt & skirt worked on default. Wig is P4 'curly woman', briefs are P4 bikini bottom. <br /> <br /> Couple of thoughts... <br /> <br /> Killing a holey RSR means closing Poser, zapping the RSR, re-opening Poser, setting up figure & costume again. This really, really slows work-cycle, so I'm going to suggest a 0~~9 incremental counter. <br /> <br /> Current C-D 2.7 has no specific morph for feet. IMHO, it should. <br /> <br /> I could have made shoes and socks fit much closer if I ignored the small poke-throughs in socks' heels...

with an upgrade to P5+ the problem of rsr geometrie files would be solved. These newer versions don't need and generate rsrs any more...

A very good result <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/thumb.gif" alt="" /> , I would like to play with the CD :you: too, but in this perios it's impossible <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_doh.gif" alt="" /> ...

Compare that to a bad result thumb he or she would like to play with the CD you too but in this perios it is impossible doh.

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HI, I've been CD-ing the Amine-ish MD Basic clothing set, with mixed results... <br /> <br /> Most of the items convert for Posette using CD defaults, although the waspie needed a LOT of tweaking at the lower hem. The half-gloves *will not* convert, as MD's fingers are anatomically absurd. The neat pumps did not scale or conform correctly, but I may take another look at them later. Again, the long socks had 'heel holes', but a snug fit on legs meant accepting a couple of small holes hidden by boots or shoes... <br /> <br /> Perhaps piccy later...

To my surprise, a lot more MD stuff has converted well, including a very retro pair of platform boots from Rie 'race queen' costume... <br /> <br /> I've also had C-D halt half way through conversion of a cut-away rubio dress, 'Unable To Morph'. Never mind: The pretty hi-heels bundled with that dress did morph-- And they fit Posette perfectly !!

I've almost worked through my collection of MD/AD freebies using C-D. <br /> <br /> Like the old saw about 'Dancing Bears', the wonder is that programs such as WW or C-D work at all, never mind so well !! <br /> <br /> Gloves, some shoes, several dresses will NOT convert for Posette. A few items' re-grouping leaves zig-zag seams or features, leaving them un-sightly if textured. <br /> <br /> Many AD freebies come as a PZ3 that cannot open without the commercial AD character installed. Other AD PZ3 files allow saving of a garment, but their resulting CR2 contains a 'string reference' instead of a 'hard' location for OBJ, so defy conversion. There are free 'mesh ripper' utilities on eg Renderosity, but they would be a last resort. <br /> <br /> Against that, many MD/AD garments were easily converted, with excellent fit, often using default C-D settings. Some tops required slight tweaking using C-D's generic, under-arm and/or upper-side poke-through fixers. Several garments had problems on the pelvis, a few requiring *heroic* tweaks to clear... <br /> <br /> I've now begun converting Aiko items. I deleted my original experiments as I now understand C-D better, and must arrange converted files more systematically. <br /> <br /> A big problem with A3 is 'body morphs'. C-D cannot cope with garments tailored to a much-morphed character: Technically, it becomes a different character, requiring a new conversion matrix. I discovered this when trying to convert a smart ChrisT item, the red 'coke bottle' corset. After a dozen exasperating iterations, I went back to C-D's default settings and morphed the result using Poser's XYZ dials. Although obviously 'off the peg' rather than bespoke, this now fits the default Posette... <br /> <br /> After filling Posette's wardrobe with MD styles, I only need a few Anime-ish Aiko items before tackling some classic V1/V2 garments. <br /> <br /> Then I'll switch to converting Medieval-ish garb again. I have not tried adapting any more robes for P4M since my first attempts lost either the complete hip region, or everything below it. This may be a bug in C-D, a problem with P4, an artifact of Gloria Ghast's notoriously quirky old meshes or some combination. I'll need to do a lot more experimenting to spot a pattern. It may just require re-aligning either the original or C-D's output OBJ by opening / re-saving with UV-Unwrapper... <br /> <br /> Um, would anyone mind if I posted a few low-res piccies with 'before and after' ?? I am not striving for photo-realism, just assembling enough costumes to visualise key scenes in several surreal short stories...

You can use Morphmanager to extract cr2 and props from pz3 <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Hi, I had a few problems converting some of the Aiko3 freebies as they had nested clothes, requiring many iterations to beat poke-through of layers. It was like dealing with Russian rather than Asian dolls... <br /> <br /> I learned a few tricks while tackling the KarinKore 'college' costume, so was able to tweak the infamous A3 Idol costume without too much hair-pulling... <br /> <br /> So, here's Posette after a visit to the local fancy-dress costume shop...

Hi there Nik. What happened to few problems converting some of the Aiko3 freebies as they had nested clothes requiring many iterations to beat poke-through of layers?

Darned if that don't look pretty good NIK. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> I know she is getting spoiled with all these clothes. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/thumb.gif" alt="" />