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The Toys Box - Vespa Tuning
ahjah [ Sunday, 04 May 2008, 09:08 PM ]
Post subject: Vespa Tuning
Hi Friends <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/group.gif" alt="" />
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I've been playing with the Vespa (by VK, in our freebies) <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/heartbeat.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/heartbeat.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/heartbeat.gif" alt="" />
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I added five more materials, the colored ones in the preview.
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You'll need UV Mapper to apply the attached UVS (don't forget to backup the original OBJ)
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I didn't change the map itself, so all textures still work <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
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It's kind of WIP, so I didn't put it into the regular downloads...
Tormie [ Monday, 05 May 2008, 12:02 AM ]
Post subject: Re: Vespa Tuning
Thank you Andreas <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/TFR718 (6).gif" alt="" /> I like to play with the Vespa <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/to_become_senile.gif" alt="" /> !!
JanReinar [ Monday, 05 May 2008, 01:29 PM ]
Post subject: Re: Vespa Tuning
Thanks Andreas! <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/heartbeat.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/heartbeat.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/heartbeat.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_dance.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_dance.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_dance.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_dance.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_dance.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_dance.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_clap.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_clap.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_clap.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_clap.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_clap.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_clap.gif" alt="" />
Tormie [ Thursday, 08 May 2008, 01:50 PM ]
Post subject: Re: Vespa Tuning
I created a seed pcf file to use with the objaction mover, it creates the new obj made by Andreas if you want to use the mover that you can find here:
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<a class="post-url" href="http://www.sandylodge.demon.co.uk/" target="_blank">http://www.sandylodge.demon.co.uk/</a>
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instead of the uvmapper, the process is quite the same, you've to change the original vespa3.obj with the one created by Andreas in
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RuntimeGeometriesvspscooter
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keeping a copy of the original <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
ahjah [ Thursday, 08 May 2008, 02:09 PM ]
Post subject: Re: Vespa Tuning
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Whazizname [ Friday, 09 May 2008, 02:52 PM ]
Post subject: Re: Vespa Tuning
Thanks Ahjah! This modification will be handy in some cases. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/thumb.gif" alt="" />
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Thanks Tomie! I don't what it is about UVMapper; but I seem to go out of my way to avoid using it. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/redembarrassed.gif" alt="" />
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leahman [ Monday, 19 May 2008, 06:35 AM ]
Post subject: Re: Vespa Tuning
<img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/thumb.gif" alt="" /> Thanks Ahjah!
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These modifications giving those material regions
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makes all the difference in using the Vespa. Back in the 50s SEARS offered
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a VESPA clone, but it wasn't as nice as the Vespa, now the model looks like
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the Vespa -instead of a copy.
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Now if we could just talk VK -into 'a Harley 883 model...
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<img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
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I just think Posette would be very pleased....
Tormie [ Monday, 19 May 2008, 08:36 AM ]
Post subject: Re: Vespa Tuning
If I'm not wron leahman <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" /> that was a genuine Vespa with another (american) brand, I'll search on the dedicated fora, but I know that it's very rare and one of those has a very high value ...
leahman [ Monday, 19 May 2008, 04:06 PM ]
Post subject: Re: Vespa Tuning
Tormie they were very plain, no chrome, and usually Grey in color...
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My uncles had those but complained loudly they wanted
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an Indian or a Norton...
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SEARS sold them showing the little "sheild" and claiming
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they were safe to ride
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in the rain....
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believe me, they proved not so safe to ride -in the rain
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for 14 yr. olds....
Tormie [ Monday, 19 May 2008, 07:03 PM ]
Post subject: Re: Vespa Tuning
<img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/thumb.gif" alt="" /> You were so lucky to see one of those leahman, it was a very rare genuine Vespa made for the American market <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> . Yep, you're very lucky.
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It was named "Vespa Allstate Crusaire and was a little different from the model of those years sold in Italy, for example, no front shock absorber <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/dontknow.gif" alt="" />
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Here is <a href="http://www.vespaforever.net/lo_file/ALLS3.JPG" target="_blank" title="Click to open image in new window"><img src="http://www.vespaforever.net/lo_file/ALLS3.JPG" alt="Image" width="220" title="Image" /></a> <a href="http://www.vespaforever.net/lo_file/ALLS1.JPG" target="_blank" title="Click to open image in new window"><img src="http://www.vespaforever.net/lo_file/ALLS1.JPG" alt="Image" width="258" title="Image" /></a> <a href="http://www.vespaforever.net/lo_file/ALLS2.JPG" target="_blank" title="Click to open image in new window"><img src="http://www.vespaforever.net/lo_file/ALLS2.JPG" alt="Image" width="168" title="Image" /></a>
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And this is the page of the italian site that talks about it :
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<a class="post-url" href="http://www.vespaforever.net/lo.htm" target="_blank">http://www.vespaforever.net/lo.htm</a>
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it is at the middle of the page, here is the quick translation of the text:
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"<i><b>It exists, but it's very rare, a Vespa branded "All State"</b>
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In November 1951 begin the adventure of the Vespa in the United States. On November the 14th the (italian) press agency ANSA announce the agreement between Piaggio and Sears, Roebuck & Co. in Genova (Italy) by which the american colossus of distribution would sell in the USA the scooter that made move again Europe in the post war period. The first stock of 1000 Vespa sailed on december 1951. The model that went to conquer the USA was the 125cc, rebabtized "Vespa Allstate Crusaire" and modified in some things for the requests of the american market: the Lamp "climbs" from the mudguard to the handlebars. It costs 325,95 dollars.
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It's a serie that was sold in the USA from 1961 to 1966 by catalog from "Sears & Robuk Co", very similar to the classic versions, it lacked the shock absorber in the front suspension, like the "cheap" 125 U</i>
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About the shield and the shape of the Vespa, it's made that way in order for the driver not to dirt with the oil of the engine that was (and still is) totally covered over the rear wheels and the shield offered protection against wind and rain (so girls don't dirt the clothes when they ride with you <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/wink.gif" alt="" /> ) . Vespa and sccoters in general and not exactly safe to ride in the rain, you have to "know it" very well, the "gravity center" first of all . If you ride it like a normal bike you ass will kiss the asphalt soon. It's a mass production scooter for poor people, an Indian or a HD is out of financial reach for the owner of a Vespa of that period (In Italy we had obvioulsy other brands of big bikes, like Ducati, Guzzi, Gilera etc.).
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BTW, if you find one of those rarity you have a treasure in your hands, you can sold it in Italy for a pile of bucks...
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P.S. And usually Vespe were not "all crome", only some particulars, usually they are entirelly painted, the most common color is White, the classics are grey or those kind of color (look at that site)
leahman [ Monday, 19 May 2008, 09:03 PM ]
Post subject: Re: Vespa Tuning
<img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/lmao.gif" alt="" /> I can't wait to tell my Uncle he has a treasure
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in that piece of crap
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rusting in the back of his garguage
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-for the last 50 years...
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I remember the ONE time he gave me a ride...
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he did his best to sling me off the back...
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I wouldn't be here, but it had very little power...
Tormie [ Monday, 19 May 2008, 09:08 PM ]
Post subject: Re: Vespa Tuning
Take some shots, send them to me and I communicate with that forum, they are all experts, I could say you how it can worth and if there is someone interested in it. You can save a Vespa <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/thumb.gif" alt="" /> . You could even start an auction on italian ebay <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> ...
leahman [ Monday, 19 May 2008, 09:20 PM ]
Post subject: Re: Vespa Tuning
<img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" /> I don't think there's enough to save...
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there's no piece of it anyone would want.
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It quit running 50 years ago and relageted
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in a leaky garguage, with my stupid Uncle's
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old rusting outboard motors
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broken fishing rods, and many many roaches...
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It's the sort 'of wet smelly place
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Bill Gates should be sent to
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for life....
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My Uncle would only try to CON somebody
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out of money, claiming it was a "perfectly-good"
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Scooter... There isn't so much as a screw not rusty
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beyond recognition...
Tormie [ Monday, 19 May 2008, 10:06 PM ]
Post subject: Re: Vespa Tuning
They save real Vespa corpses, if it really exists anymore and maybe has papers it can be saved even because most of the pieces can be taken from parts of that period. As I said if that Vespa is really around just some shots can give an idea to an amateur who restores Vespe.