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Deviant Viking & Mitzo's Pole Dancing Club - My beef with poser



guiltypleasures [ Friday, 09 April 2004, 03:10 PM ]
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So then, what your saying landman is we should back up? Hmm, what a wonderful concept <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_clap.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_doh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/lmao.gif" alt="" />
Landman [ Friday, 09 April 2004, 03:14 PM ]
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Well, what I am saying is, if someone is that worried about losing data, then spend the money on some sort of back up hardware and media. Be it a tape drive, zip drive or some sort of cd-dvd writing drive. Set it up to back everything up once a day or once an hour whenever. And it won't be an issue.
guiltypleasures [ Friday, 09 April 2004, 03:26 PM ]
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I may be clueless, but is there a way to setup a computer to auto backup a cdr/cdrw without having to manually do it? I know that you would have to manually put the cd into the cdr drive, but if you were to put one in each day/week or however often you have it set to back up, can you then program the computer to start making a back up on it's own? I'm serious, if there is such a way, I would love to be able to do it, it would save me a lot of time and stress. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/smile.gif" alt="" />
Posy [ Friday, 09 April 2004, 03:26 PM ]
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That is purely a hypothesis.
Deviant_Viking [ Friday, 09 April 2004, 04:04 PM ]
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<blockquote class="quote"><div class="quote-user">guiltypleasures";p="8300 wrote: </div><div class="post-text">Okay, being serious <as I can be> I know how I feel when I loose something. I have been working on a story that I hope someday to finish as a book and if I were to loose what I have written up on the computer I would have a very hard time getting past it, because it's a piece of my life.</div></blockquote> <br /> You know what I did before I discovered poser? <br /> Nothing. <br /> Absolutely nothing, but sit around all day and play games. <br /> So when I finaly find something I can do, something I'm good at, something that proves I'm not just a nobody.. something that's been an important part of my life (I've worked with poser almost every day since I first got it).. and then lose a huge chunk of it... <br /> <br /> Honestly, I think I'm doing better than most other people would in my situation. <br /> I know I can still create new art, but that's not the issue here. It's all the art I already have created that's now gone, which I can't get back.
Deviant_Viking [ Friday, 09 April 2004, 04:07 PM ]
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<blockquote class="quote"><div class="quote-user">Landman";p="8304 wrote: </div><div class="post-text">Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! Back Up! <br /> <br /> I just don't think I can say it enough.....</div></blockquote> <br /> <br /> I did. I backed everything up on my newly acquiered external harddrive. Everything except the folder with my savefiles. I copied my runtime folder, and thought I'd taken the whole poser folder instead. <br /> It wasn't that I forgot to back up, it was that I fucked up.
Deviant_Viking [ Friday, 09 April 2004, 04:08 PM ]
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And I just managed to hit 'report' on landman's post instead of quote... *cough* <br /> Another fuck-up..
Landman [ Friday, 09 April 2004, 04:12 PM ]
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check your PM GP
tda42 [ Friday, 09 April 2004, 04:14 PM ]
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A good question on the back up.I am not sure if there is such a thing because it would keep the drive pretty busy.I have always every day backed up anything I had that very day.I use to have a P166 with 32mb of memory and a 2gb on the Hdrive.I learned from that computer to back up stuff.Windows XP has a back up that lets you go to the date Windows had problems.To my knowledge it keeps the programs that were put into the PC depending on the date the application was loaded. <br /> GP thank you for those kind words.I think we all make good friends here. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/heartbeat.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/heartbeat.gif" alt="" />
Landman [ Friday, 09 April 2004, 04:15 PM ]
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there are software based ways.....
Posy [ Friday, 09 April 2004, 04:15 PM ]
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Where are they?
Landman [ Friday, 09 April 2004, 04:20 PM ]
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well here is one.... <br /> <br /> <a class="post-url" href="http://www.willowsoft.com/backup/" target="_blank">http://www.willowsoft.com/backup/</a>
tda42 [ Friday, 09 April 2004, 04:21 PM ]
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Landman is there anyway you can load a tutorial for backup that might help from this kind of thing again. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" />
tda42 [ Friday, 09 April 2004, 04:24 PM ]
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I check the site out thanks. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
Landman [ Friday, 09 April 2004, 04:36 PM ]
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here are a couple links. I don't know what OS any of you are using. but I'm betting they are Microsoft based. <br /> Windows XP and Windows 2000 were built on the same core operating system. the only differences are: <br /> Product activation, application compatability & different interface. <br /> <br /> you can start the windows backup utility by going to start then run and type ntbackup and hit enter. <br /> <br /> <a class="post-url" href="http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/maintain/featusability/14w2kadc.mspx" target="_blank">http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pr...y/14w2kadc.mspx</a> <br /> <br /> <a class="post-url" href="http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/maintain/operate/14w2kada.mspx" target="_blank">http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pr...e/14w2kada.mspx</a> <br /> <br /> <a class="post-url" href="http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winntas/maintain/featusability/11wntpcb.mspx" target="_blank">http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pr...y/11wntpcb.mspx</a>
Landman [ Friday, 09 April 2004, 04:40 PM ]
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you could get windows to create the backup file locally using the back-up scheduler, and then manually copy it to the cd-r once a week. better yet a dvd-r holds more. also, you only need to bakup whats changed after you've made a master.
tda42 [ Friday, 09 April 2004, 04:46 PM ]
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Thanks Landman.Always a pleasure to have you around.You Are A Great Problem Solver. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
guiltypleasures [ Friday, 09 April 2004, 05:38 PM ]
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Ken, shame on you <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_naughty.gif" alt="" /> You are somebody no matter if you do art, play games or just sit around and twiddle your thumbs! You are a good friend from what I have seen, you are someone that I find to be a very sensitive caring soul and to me that's worth more than anything else. Don't put yourself down or I shall be forced to create a band of monster gnomes to come and drag you across land and sea to Oregon where I shall kick your butt till you admit you are forced to admit I'm right! lol <br /> I agree you did take the loss better than most people, myself included. But you at least have the renders of most of your artwork which is important, I know the poser files themselves would have been nice to have to go back to and use parts and pieces again, but the final outcome of your work is found in the gallerys you have posted to, and I'm sure even on a lot of peoples hard drives that your work has inspired them to download to. <br /> Now fix me a drink and put on this g-string and show me some good pole action pronto before I have this joint closed down for lack of business! <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <br /> <br /> Nex, thank you too, and keep posting, we are all family here and we all must keep having fun! <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/smile.gif" alt="" />
tda42 [ Friday, 09 April 2004, 05:50 PM ]
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Where's the video camera.Tormentor and Posy will get a kick out of this later. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_dance.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_doh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_snooty.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_wall.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_whistle.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_whistle.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_whistle.gif" alt="" />
Posy [ Friday, 09 April 2004, 05:50 PM ]
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The video camera? Where is video camera ?
tda42 [ Friday, 09 April 2004, 05:50 PM ]
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Above you! <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
Posy [ Friday, 09 April 2004, 05:50 PM ]
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Compare that to below you.
tda42 [ Friday, 09 April 2004, 05:51 PM ]
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You know she has got a point there. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" />
guiltypleasures [ Friday, 09 April 2004, 09:40 PM ]
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two points if I remember corectly kenny <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/smile.gif" alt="" /> <br /> <br /> I don't have my video camera, but I have my new cell phone that takes pictures and it's so little they will never know <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_whistle.gif" alt="" />
Tormie [ Friday, 09 April 2004, 09:58 PM ]
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I don't know how to encourage you to continue doing your art Deviant Viking... I hope that the time will cure your actual feeling.... <br /> <br /> Thank you for your kind words GP <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/heartbeat.gif" alt="" /> ... I'm on chat just now... <for a limited time only...ZZzzzzz...ZZzzzz..>
TdaC [ Saturday, 10 April 2004, 09:57 AM ]
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Dev! Don't put yourself down. You're not a nobody, you're a somebody! Someone not because you do wonderful art that makes us think, but because you are you! <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/heartbeat.gif" alt="" />
Nex [ Sunday, 12 September 2004, 09:54 PM ]
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Very insightful commentary D.V. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
Anonymous [ Wednesday, 06 April 2005, 06:59 AM ]
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I can understand how you feel. About the attitude of lack of artistic efforts by many, well I have posted on that before. Just as I have posted my history including the time that I lost inspirations. Even as I felt my abilities fading, I fought to stay with the art; but I lost the battle. While away from art, I felt like a lost outcast. I tired directing my attentin and efforts elsewhere, but it was not the same. If you ever leave the world of art, you will regret it. This is not a threat, just a warning based on how I felt. <br /> <br /> Here is how I feel about the situation with in the "Poser community": I am an outsider of that community and I plan to stay that way. Yes, I am using Poser in a big way in my recent works, and I plan to contiune to do so. However, I don't see myself as a Poser Artist, I see myself as an artist and I see poser as just one of the tools in my artistic toolkit. <br /> <br /> I don't know what each of you think of yourselves as, but to all of you I will say that none of you are Poser Artist. None of you qualifiy as being called Poser Artists. What are some of the qualificaton to being a Poser Artist? <br /> <br /> 1. Render pictures with Poser and Poser only. <br /> 2. Limit your "art" to what Poser can do. <br /> 3. Limit you vision to the limits of Poser. <br /> <br /> You are all artist. Plain and simple you are artists who use happen to use Poser as well as many other tools. None of you are qualified as being Poser Artists because you don't limit your art and vision thw way that they do. <br /> <br /> For those people on other sites who are qualified as Poser Artist, I feel sorry and I hope they can someday grow out of their condition. <br /> <br /> So who do I create my artwork for if not for the Poser community. I create is for my enjoyment and for my family and for you my friends in the artist community. I also post it in other sites including in the sites that are exclusivly Poser based, for those there who may enjoy it. and with the slight hope that it may inspire some of the "Poser artists" to look beyond their limited ideas and see what else is possible and perhaps even try something that is new and create their own personal style. <br /> <br /> Since I sarted buildig my Renderosity homepage, I have added many of you to my list of favorite artist. Not because I felt that I had to because of our association here, but rather because I like your art and each of you are among my favorite artists. If I didn't didn't feel that way about your work, even though I like you, you would not have been added to the list. As it is there are more of you who have not been added to the list only because, you either don't have any work posted on that site, or I have not discovered your username on that site. Also, there is one person on my favorite artist list who I am seriously considering removing from the list (this person is none of you), at first I liked some of the art work of that person, but now although beautifuly done, I am finding it boring. That person is a Poser artist and uses most of the works to promote the newest additions to that person's line of merchandise on that site. Yet, I hesitate removing that person from the list, for the sake of the early works made when that person was still an artist using Poser, rather than being a Poser artist. <br /> <br /> DV and everyone else, don't cast away art because of the habits of others who don't share our thinking. Continue to create art, for youself and for the enjoyment of all those who do appreciate and enjoy your artwork. As I said, if you give up on art, you will regret it, I speak from experience on this matter. I didn't give up on art but it did disappear for a long time and until it returned, I felt an empty. <br /> <br /> Pangor
tda42 [ Wednesday, 06 April 2005, 03:31 PM ]
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I couldn't have said it any better! <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
mordikar [ Wednesday, 27 April 2005, 12:01 AM ]
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I know this is an old post but it's still sooooo true.. Thank you Dev for making me realize that there ARE people out there who are interested in more than Vicky3's breasts and butt.... Go to any of the big art sites and the galleries get hundreds of images a day of all the same junk .. and 90% of it is vicky, steph, or aiko naked, maybe with a phot back ground thrown on .. and a light set thrown in to highlyigh all the important *cough* parts of her ... : <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <br /> <br /> I started modling because there was no descent looking armour for posette that actually covered anything.. (or hardly for anyone else for that matter and the one descent set for that ugly vicky2 was like $40). I wanted to use poser to do figures for fantasy images with swords and dragons and armour and all i could find was at best a chainmail bikinni.... <br /> <br /> It's so nice to know that there are other people out there with similar viewpoints.
Anonymous [ Wednesday, 27 April 2005, 12:52 AM ]
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Mordikar, I think that you already know most of my position in this issue. <br /> <br /> <blockquote class="quote"><div class="quote-nouser">Quote:</div><div class="post-text">and all i could find was at best a chainmail bikinni....</div></blockquote> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/wink.gif" alt="" /> <br /> Nerd's impractical fantasy armor? I know it. I first saw it in 2000 on Remo's arial character. I thought is was a clever idea at the time. Then I found it at Nerd's site and then started seeing it in so many pictures that it soon was too trite for me to even consider using any part of it for anything. <br /> <br /> I posted my two most recent work, ok one work posted once as a polychrome image and once in monochrome, it was a portrait to test out my newest character. While working on it, I became the inital image for a series. I was going to me some simple images to practice some skills and test some techniques and idea, in preparation for a larger series. They were to be a series of rapidly produced fashion and beauty renderings, just for fun and practice; without any stories to tell or any deeper meanings. <br /> <br /> I already have a couple of those pictures ready for posting but I am holding on to them for a while, because, I ran into a problem. I found it harder to made these "meaningless pictures" than I had thought it would be. I could keep making the pictures as I had planned with no problems but I keep finding stories developing in my head to tie them together. The pictures that I have ready to post need to wait for their turn in the sequence of the developing story before being posted. <br /> <br /> Finding it so difficult creating "meaningless" images, I wonder how so many people can be happy creating more and more of the same old "meaniingless" pictures. And how others viewing them can like viewing the same old tired format with the same model with everything created with a point and click with no artistic effort on the part of the "Poser artist", as opposed to a real artist. <br /> <br /> Pangor
Anonymous [ Wednesday, 27 April 2005, 01:28 AM ]
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Have you ever looked at the renderosity gallery sorted by:Top 100 Most Viewed" Images? <br /> <br /> The top five are all of nude women, more or less. The lighting, textures and the body shape of the character #1 most viewed are horrible. The body form porportions of the character and unnatural. <br /> <br /> The second image is a work in process were the artist was having texturing problems. <br /> <br /> The third is a joke image posted by someone how felt that same way as DV did when he started this topic. You can tell that it is a protest posting by looking at the thumbnail, but still it has been viewed 42,087 times as of this moment. <br /> <br /> There are some nice pictures and some real masterpieces in that list but the most of them make one wonder how they could have climbed so high in the number of viewings. <br /> <br /> The first one in the list that I feel deserves to be there on merrit of artistic content alone, is ranked #7. The first one on the list that in my opinionr belongs there hands down is even further down the list. <br /> <br /> Pangor
The Mighty Zeus [ Wednesday, 27 April 2005, 01:59 PM ]
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I know exactly how you feel DV. My work with the absolute most hits on Renderosity, the thumbnail is totally black with the word "warning nudity" on it and the most comments I get these days are three or four. (the largest number I ever recieved was 8 on an underwater piece that I built totally in C4D.) But you know I don't really build my art for other people. I build it for me. If others like it then great, if not then at least I am happy with it. This place is so different from every other place out there in that the people actually care about each other, much to everyones credit. Personally I like the work that people turn out here and I like the people here. That is why I call this place home.


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