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<blockquote class="quote"><div class="quote-user">Den Tracy";p="10752 wrote: </div><div class="post-text"> <br /> If it should come out, be prepared for the "real" 3D Bonnie to get a hold of the rival <br /> and beat the daylights out of her in some renders. <br /> Fair is fair in wartime... <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" /></div></blockquote> <br /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/lol.gif" alt="" />

Den i think you should know that there's a thread about Your bonnie and their bonnie over at renderosity, in the copyrights forum. It's called: Can a Name be concidered Intellectual Property?

Here is a little story. <br /> <br /> I saw the thread and responded to it. <br /> Those people over there are just too dense to figure out that it is the concept and idea <br /> of a unique 3D character with a personality and identity is the intellectual property. <br /> <br /> Their version won't sell anyway and will disappear into the abyss of obscurity with all the other <br /> characters quicker than they could market it. It's just another bloated lipped zombie, void <br /> of personality.

I wonder, just for shits and giggles, what would happen to their sales, if you offered your Bonnie for free? It's probably not a good idea, however, I bet it would hurt them..... <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" />

Nobody will ever have access to my Connie and Bonnie characters other than myself. <br /> The last thing that I want to see is my characters at Renderotica or in the hands of morons ! <br /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <br /> <br /> Bonnie may be copied or immitated, but will never, ever come close to the 3D character <br /> that I created two years ago. <br /> The other one is simply a little dress-up dolly. <br /> <br /> There's only one 3D character named Bonnie as far as I'm concerned and you all <br /> know which one that is. <br /> <br /> I doubt that I can stop them from launching their product, but you never know. <br /> If and when it appears, it shows that there is absolutely no respect for another <br /> artist and that no code of ethics followed either. <br /> <br /> I'll bide my time and see what happens.

I wrote something in the Renderosity thread, WOOOH!!! TWOOOT!! TWOOOOOOT!!! <br /> <br /> The war has begun! <br /> <br /> <br /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/qtank.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/qleft2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/qright7.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/qleft2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/qright4.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/XXfart.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/5badair.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/fart.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_sick.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_sick.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_sick.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_sick.gif" alt="" />

P.S. the thread is here : <br /> <br /> <a class="post-url" href="http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?ForumID=12395&Form.ShowMessage=1828101" target="_blank">http://www.renderosity.com/messages...Message=1828101</a>

Well, you told it like it is, but it will fall on deaf ears. <br /> <br /> You are right, their creation, if it can be called that has the <br /> personality of a dishrag....wait...it has no personality at all. <br /> A skilled artist must provide that for his or her characters. <br /> None will be forthcoming in that department any time soon. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <br /> <br /> The character will appear in renders as nothing more than a brain dead <br /> zombie Poser doll... <br /> Wait... I may be giving them far too much credit. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" /> <br /> <br /> Only people lacking artistic talent will rush out to buy whatever it can be <br /> classified as and put up their renders and wait for their friends to <br /> tell them how wonderful it is with this person's shoes, that person's texture <br /> and someone else's poses. <br /> How utterly pathetic is that. <br /> <br /> <br /> Thanks Kenny, Tormentor and Sean Martin for the support !

Well spoken words by that trio

Hey no problem Den! I got my Tank loaded. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Hey, their Bonnie for V3 Teen is already reduced from $12.95 down to $9.07 <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/lmao.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/lmao.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/lmao.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/lmao.gif" alt="" /> <br /> <br /> On sale already ? <br /> <br /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/lol.gif" alt="" />

I hope you know I'm on your side Den and think it's just unethical, even though I'm afraid they'd win if you stepped into the ring with them <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_shifty.gif" alt="" />

Ken, you look like Deviant Teddybear, not a Deviant Viking... <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/lmao.gif" alt="" /> <br /> Am I missing something in the avatar? <br /> Are you projecting holograms or just messin' with my head ?

What can I say, I got tired of all the viking avatard long ago. <br /> Besides, chicks dig the bear <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

We're all here for you Den:)

Thanks ladies and gentlemen. <br /> After the ashes settle, there will be only one Bonnie left standing, mine... <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <br /> Now, I must humiliate the rival Bonnie in an image. <br /> It is my constitutional right as a Canadian citizen to defend my creation... <br /> I will post it when completed at Renderosity, PoserPros and anywhere I feel like posting... <br /> (Ooooo, I can be be a bad boy <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/lol.gif" alt="" /> )

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<blockquote class="quote"><div class="quote-user">Deviant_Viking";p="10780 wrote: </div><div class="post-text">What can I say, I got tired of all the viking avatard long ago. <br /> Besides, chicks dig the bear <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" /></div></blockquote> <br /> Thats funny Ken! <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/lmao.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/lmao.gif" alt="" />

<blockquote class="quote"><div class="quote-user">Den Tracy";p="10782 wrote: </div><div class="post-text">Thanks ladies and gentlemen. <br /> After the ashes settle, there will be only one Bonnie left standing, mine... <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <br /> Now, I must humiliate the rival Bonnie in an image. <br /> It is my constitutional right as a Canadian citizen to defend my creation... <br /> I will post it when completed at Renderosity, PoserPros and anywhere I feel like posting... <br /> (Ooooo, I can be be a bad boy <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/lol.gif" alt="" /> )</div></blockquote> <br /> I'll get the camoflauge gear and night lights out.We leave at midnight. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

On second thought, those two artist morons don't deserve anymore attention <br /> than they have already received. <br /> I'll bet you the next one they come out with is a "Connie". <br /> If it happens, then it was all planned and yet another insult. <br /> <br /> I have grown tired of the personal attacks, shitheads, legality spouting morons <br /> and people who don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. <br /> It may be time to kiss Poser good-bye. <br /> <br /> Thanks to everyone who commented and for your support. <br /> In my opinion, the only genuine artists are here on this site. <br /> We can take the free and forgotten characters and bring life to them. <br /> Take pride in being a non-mainstream artist. <br /> <br /> Give up the Bonnie thread replies, it won't change anything and <br /> only wastes your time. <br /> <br /> (Editted for typographical errors)

Den, I think that you're wrong in this behaviour. It SHOULD BE possible that those people don't know your characters, they make a totally different art. They said that they have found "Bonnie" using a search engine, it could be possible. I asked them to add "not to be confused with Den Tracy's Bonnie" in their Daz's page, and I think that they will try to do this. I think that this could be a very good solution and all could be ended with a handshake. I don't think and don't believe in a conspiration against you Den, but I could be stupid.

Den I think it is time for a personal Bonnie and Connie web site. <br /> No affence to Posetteforever but if you want a site with saying "no you can't".Then it would be this solution.Or at least I think it would.Any opinions? <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" />

<blockquote class="quote"><div class="quote-user">Den Tracy";p="10798 wrote: </div><div class="post-text">In my opinion, the only genuine artists are here on this site. <br /> We can take the free and forgotten characters and bring life to them. <br /> Take pride in being a non-mainstream artist.</div></blockquote> <br /> <br /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_shifty.gif" alt="" /> *hides behind his V3*

<blockquote class="quote"><div class="quote-nouser">Quote:</div><div class="post-text"> <br /> *hides behind his V3* <br /> </div></blockquote> <br /> ... Only a trick to see her ass closer... <br /> <br /> <br /> (Time to go bed DV, teens need 8 hours of sleep... <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/binkybaby.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/binkybaby.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/binkybaby.gif" alt="" /> )

I do not think there needs to be any further discussion of the topic. <br /> <br /> Tormentor and Kenny: <br /> <br /> I read your replies at Renderosity and I thank you for that. <br /> <br /> dolfinjtes doesn't look at anyone else's art, but ignorance is not a good <br /> excuse in the 3D world nowadays. She said that she was through <br /> with the thread at Renderosity hours ago, yet she is waiting for <br /> some sort of reply... from me perhaps ? <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_boohoo.gif" alt="" /> <br /> She is in for a lengthy wait if she expects me to reply to that thread. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <br /> I have no intention of giving them the satisfaction of a reply. <br /> They do not exist as far as I am concerned. <br /> <br /> DanaanD claims to have followed my work, yet said nothing about the name <br /> or the possibility of a conflict. <br /> He is full of shit. <br /> <br /> I am growing tired of this topic and will not reply to it anymore.

<blockquote class="quote"><div class="quote-user">TORMENTOR";p="10804 wrote: </div><div class="post-text"> <br /> ... Only a trick to see her ass closer...</div></blockquote> <br /> But of course... with that kind of ass, who wouldn't? <br /> <br /> <blockquote class="quote"><div class="quote-user">TORMENTOR";p="10804 wrote: </div><div class="post-text">(Time to go bed DV, teens need 8 hours of sleep... <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/binkybaby.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/binkybaby.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/binkybaby.gif" alt="" /> )</div></blockquote> <br /> And busdrivers need 12 to survive their passengers <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Here is my 2 cents Canadian on this whole thing. <br /> <br /> Well I 've been sitting here beside Den for awhile and I <br /> can honestly say that I am not surprised about anything <br /> that I hear when it comes down to this art stuff. <br /> It was nice to see some of his friends rally around for <br /> support. <br /> I have to thank you for that. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/heartbeat.gif" alt="" /> <br /> It disturbs me to see that the wonderous creation is a <br /> teen character though and I would be disgusted and appalled <br /> if nude images of that character appeared. <br /> One thing that I am proud about is that Den stuck to his <br /> word about not posting any images of his main characters <br /> in the nude. You know which ones I am talking about. <br /> He liked to make people laugh and knew that somewhere <br /> there was someone who needed a bit of cheering up. <br /> I know that some of his pictures made people feel good because they <br /> told him so. <br /> <br /> Today, I told Den that with this latest episode with the lack of <br /> integrity and any ethical standards of conduct whatsoever, that it <br /> is time to walk away from this nonsense and get on with his life. <br /> There are other things to do in life and to keep at what he is doing <br /> for a few comments and views makes no sense to me. <br /> I too am tired of hearing about personal attacks for no apparant <br /> reason, other than jealousy or immaturity. <br /> There are people that are sincere and worthy of a face to face meeting. <br /> Most of them are here at this site. <br /> The others wouldn't get the time of day from me.

I had hoped that this could be solved. Yesterday i sent an im to one of the creators of the teen character about the thread explaining the situation from a different perspective - Den's perspective. She said it was too late. <br /> Bonnie, i agree that Den has a rare gift of making people laugh and feel good with his art. I love the adventures of Connie and Bonnie and the others, and hope to see much more of his art. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/smile.gif" alt="" />

Hi Bonnie: <br /> First of all let me say that I am saddened by this.If I could be there to pat him on the back and say it will be alright I would.Believe me.I have stood by those characters to laugh and show my family what good humor was all about.Den made me laugh as many times as I could count.When I was down and sad he always built me up.The encouragement he showed to me was my reason for being here.I don't think anyone knew me as well as Den did in our talks.Always the first to say hi.Others have said a kind word to me and I thank them for that here.But we really did hit it off good.I have always thought of myself as not as good as I would like to be in the art world.Again Den was always there.How can people just rip your soul out and not even say thank you.Yes Den you made me laugh and you did it with grace and style.Den tonight give Bonnie and Connie a kiss on the cheak for me and tell them I love them.I just thought you needed to know this Den and Micky.Take care and god bless.

Thanks Thilda and Kenny. <br /> <br /> It's all water under the bridge now. What is done, is done. <br /> There really has to be some sort of ethics. I have always played <br /> by the rules, in business and elsewhere. <br /> From the comments about never hearing about me, it proves that people <br /> only respond to posts made by favourite artists and don't even know <br /> that there are others out there. They don't look at the thumbnails and frankly, <br /> some are missing out. <br /> I don't have a favourites list, because everyone puts out a very good image <br /> from time to time. There are some who can do it with every image. <br /> I am not referring to myself. <br /> <br /> I can't have everyone on the list and to have someone's name not on the list means <br /> that you don't measure up to their standards. <br /> <br /> <br /> I will change Bonnie's name to Mic because it looks like the <br /> character is replying instead of a person and it's time for an avatar <br /> change anyway.

I saw dolfijntjes public excuses on renderosity so I don't understand what you are doing Den... <br /> I'm with you on the copyright/trademark argument, but I don't believe that it is a personal attack against you... <br /> <br /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" /> Tdac used sometimes "Posy" as the name of her Posettes, but I think that she doesn't know that "Posy" is the only name of Posy Posette <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/heartbeat.gif" alt="" /> , so I never thought in a conspiracy against me... <br /> <br /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" /> Mmmm... Maybe I could ask for a sack full of swedish money <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> !!

My full name is Posy Rosabella Posette <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/smile.gif" alt="" />

My full name is Angela Arabella Posette <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/smile.gif" alt="" />

I didn't think of that, so you want a bribe tormie? <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> Posy, do you think i should give tormie money?

<img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" /> <br /> Give him what you want, but NO slice of cake <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_naughty.gif" alt="" /> !!

<img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/icon_redface.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/icon_redface.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/icon_redface.gif" alt="" />

Aaah...... <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_shifty.gif" alt="" /> I hate to to say this but Tormie you left the water running in the Play House again and the beavers are building a damn in there.So if you would be so kind. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> .................. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_eh.gif" alt="" /> ...................Psssst.......Pssst........TdaC I'll take some cake if you have any left Peeez! <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

<img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_snooty.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_snooty.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_snooty.gif" alt="" />

But posy, if i give tormie money he can buy a cake! <br /> tdac - one cake coming up <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Thanx. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> That was very good.You make a great chief. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> .............. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/confused.gif" alt="" /> ...........I think I hear Tormentor coming back. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_shifty.gif" alt="" /> ............Kenny looks to see if the gun is loaded with arms flopping around yelling Posy don't just do something stand there! <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/lmao.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/lmao.gif" alt="" />

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An apology changes nothing, nor will it make everything better because of the <br /> apology. <br /> <br /> I don't see it as a personal attack. What Micky said was in reference to all of the <br /> ones in the past. <br /> <br /> A name change was requested and refused for the sake of a $12.95 product. <br /> The character is being sold so that dolfinjtes can have money to buy <br /> Poser related items as she phrased it. <br /> <br /> I don't think that a delay of a few days would have killed them. <br /> All the apologies in the world will not make any difference. <br /> <br /> They are wrong and everyone who has contacted me by email or PM <br /> stands behind me in my claims to the character name. <br /> Any other "Bonnie" characters are insignificant as are the two artists. <br /> <br /> spook made some valid arguements and he knows what he is talking about. <br /> Most people do not understand what a copyright violation is, but think that they do.

Yah I seen spook out there and he hit it on the head.But I said it in the forum as well.I think we all did and know one listened. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_eh.gif" alt="" />