♥ PosetteForever ♥

Hi, <br /> <br /> Just joined today, found the site yesterday. <br /> <br /> Not a Poser user (shh... I just started using DAZ3D, don't tell the locals), sorry!. <br /> <br /> I was reading up on 3D art, when I heard about Posette, and Dork. It all sounded quite historical, and I thought that it would be an idea to see where alot of this started and found this great site. <br /> <br /> I had to join, and see what I could use (your giving stuff free to boot), including advice and help. <br /> <br /> Of course I am just starting and will see how I progress. I may get to do a piece worthy of posting. Got lots to learn first. <br /> <br /> Regards.

Hi Chromium <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/JC_howdy.gif" alt="" /> and Welcome <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/viannen_01.gif" alt="" /> <br /> <br /> We're a little but friendly community <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/TFR718 (6).gif" alt="" /> , just ask and we'll help you <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <br /> <br /> Thank you for your post, it's always nice to meet new friends <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/TFR708.gif" alt="" /> <br /> <br /> Talk later <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/JC_howdy.gif" alt="" />

Be welcomed! <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/thumb.gif" alt="" />

<img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/TFR718 (6).gif" alt="" /> Welcome Chromium <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/viannen_01.gif" alt="" />

Thanks for the warm welcome everyone, your very kind. <br /> <br /> Still reading up both here and on the web for more posette info. <br /> <br /> Hoping to find an original Poser 3 or 4, so I can aquire a more genuine posette, as my Daz3d Victoria, does not count. I have aquired from this site a hybrid Posette for Victoria, as a Posette substitute, but hoping for an original. Any pointers in aquiring one appreciated. Ebay only sells the latest Poser versions (each time I look), perhaps I should be patient. <br /> <br /> I am also very amazed at how much stuff is free on the net too, I download some of it, one day it may come in handy (I hope).

Hi Chromium <br /> <br /> If you own a copy of Poser, whatever is the version, you have to search or ask to SmithMicro for the "legacy content" package that is given away for free, it contains all the "old" packages, Posette <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/heartbeat.gif" alt="" /> included. You need it in order to "extract" all the hybrid models (the reference file is P4NudeWoman.obj). Some times ago they gave away poser 5 for free, I would need that version in Mac format too...

Glad you could join us. I have Poser 4 in a box. The object file was at one time just that and then they started with another file extension after Poser 5. But there is a lot to learn but it is a good experience. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> If you have a creative side you can have your own character to have. A lot of people have wrote stories including action but the best part of this site is we know people. We make friends and always stay in touch. We are small but the site has a big heart and it is this reason we have been here for a long time while other sites have sad to say, have closed the doors. So welcome and we leave a light on to who ever shows up on the door step. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/TFR708.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Kenny is right but there is an easy trick to restore the old OBJ format <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/diario4cn0.gif" alt="" /> : the new format is .OBZ and is a simple ZIP file, so it's enough to change .OBZ in .ZIP , decompress it and rename it again in .OBJ and here it is <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> (This can be done for every Poser compressed format, like the .PZZ)

<blockquote class="quote" cite="viewtopic.php?p=42363#p42363"><div class="quote-user">Tormie wrote: [<a href="#_somewhat" onclick="javascript:open_postreview('show_post.php?p=42363');" class="genmed">View Post</a>]</div><div class="post-text">Kenny is right but there is an easy trick to restore the old OBJ format <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/diario4cn0.gif" alt="" /> : the new format is .OBZ and is a simple ZIP file, so it's enough to change .OBZ in .ZIP , decompress it and rename it again in .OBJ and here it is <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> (This can be done for every Poser compressed format, like the .PZZ)</div></blockquote> <br /> <br /> Like Chromium, I don't have Poser (yet) but I do have Daz Studio & Bryce - both free versions since that's what I can afford. Little things like this are pretty cool to know for future reference. Thanks, Tormie! <br /> <br /> And welcome to the board, Chromium ... a little late since I joined a month after you! <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/smile.gif" alt="" /> This is a great reference site and the people seem friendly enough although in reading some of the posts, I worry some about Posy ... <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <br /> <br /> Best regards, <br /> <br /> Kludge

I don't use Daz Studio mainly because I'm too lazy for a new learning curve <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/boyyawn.gif" alt="" /> and yes, it's free, but if you want to make something comparable to Poser you've to empty the pockets for the add-ons <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> . Here at PF we don't advertise for commercial products but we can give suggestions for the essential tools (which Daz Studio and Poser are for sure) . I think that an "old" version of Poser can be found for a very reasonable price and I can say you that if you don't need to render your projects with a very extensive light calculation there is no difference and you can even do the rest with some postwork. <br /> Posettes ( <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/heartbeat.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/heartbeat.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/heartbeat.gif" alt="" /> ) looks good whatever is the program used <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

<blockquote class="quote" cite="viewtopic.php?p=42392#p42392"><div class="quote-user">Tormie wrote: [<a href="#_somewhat" onclick="javascript:open_postreview('show_post.php?p=42392');" class="genmed">View Post</a>]</div><div class="post-text">I don't use Daz Studio mainly because I'm too lazy for a new learning curve <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/boyyawn.gif" alt="" /> and yes, it's free, but if you want to make something comparable to Poser you've to empty the pockets for the add-ons <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> </div></blockquote> <br /> <br /> Understandable. I'm at the bottom of the learning well anyway so everything is new. <br /> <br /> <blockquote class="quote"><div class="quote-nouser">Quote:</div><div class="post-text">Here at PF we don't advertise for commercial products but we can give suggestions for the essential tools (which Daz Studio and Poser are for sure).</div></blockquote> <br /> <br /> I'm sorry. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/crybaby2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/connie_ashamed.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_pray.gif" alt="" /> I promise to try to not to it anymore. Since I like open source and GPL software a lot (I'm a pretty strong proponent of them, actually), I forgot it and the other one are commercial since they are free versions. <br /> <br /> <blockquote class="quote"><div class="quote-nouser">Quote:</div><div class="post-text">I think that an "old" version of Poser can be found for a very reasonable price and I can say you that if you don't need to render your projects with a very extensive light calculation there is no difference and you can even do the rest with some postwork.</div></blockquote> <br /> <br /> From what I've read, Poser 3 or 4 will do what I need for now, especially with the extensive libraries of freebies around. <br /> <br /> Thanks for the info and being nice about me oops. <br /> <br /> Best regards, <br /> <br /> Kludge

Thanks one and all for the advice, and support. <br /> <br /> I have finally aquired an original Poser 6, (thanks to ebay), and despite the user interface, am getting to understand why Poser is held in good regard (but much like Kludge), I had only the free Daz Studio, to compare it to, and not the commercial Daz product. <br /> <br /> (Kludge: For true opensource there is Blender, have you youtubed Sintel, or Big Bucks Bunny, (I forget the third one). Also Anim8tor, is maturing well too). <br /> <br /> However, I must say that I am now going to switch to Poser 6 (it will take a wee while, to settle, as I am still in Daz mode). <br /> <br /> Of course, I am happy to report, I now have Posette, amongst my figures (finally I feel justified being in this forum). I also went on the Smithmicro site, and downloaded all the updates for Poser 6, and also I think it was Poser 5 SR3 (it has more figures). <br /> <br /> Poser 6, with free Daz figures too, all good stuff. <br /> <br /> I have also been reading up on the 3GB switch, and making my Poser 6, Large Address Aware. Very nice to have an old program, and still find that it has support (thanks Smithmicro), and also that as a user I can further modify it for larger scenes (thanks 3GB switch/Large Address Aware). <br /> <br /> I have Poser 6, running on my laptop, with a meagre 20GB HD, and shall be putting in a nice new 160GB. I shall put the 20GB, into an external drive caddy, and use that to test initially with which figures and props I want to have before doing a final install on the laptop (at this point I can hear experienced users laughing, as they know we never have a final set up, as we continually add, and change content). <br /> <br /> I also have Poser 8 (another ebay bargain), arriving in the works, that can go on the desktop, at some point (though I use the laptop mostly). Introduced my niece to the Poser world too (got her Poser 7 - thanks ebay again). She mocks my P6 Jessi, and James, with her G2 Sydney and Simon. But hey, as long as she knows her Poser history, and respects Posette, I shall not complain. She is a natural for setting up a scene, I may post one of her renderings here before I get one up from me, she is quite talented. I wonder if she may further it and make a career out from this. <br /> <br /> I am quite surprised to find myself in this position. Initally I had the free Daz items, for which I am still very grateful. To now be in a position where I feel like I have so much, and much of the content I have is free. <br /> <br /> At some point I would like to develop some animation skill with Poser, which spoils me with its' Key Frame Animation (the free Daz, has a very under rated Pupeteer module built in). Also there is the sound adding capability of Poser too. I have seen some good Poser animations on youtube, and it is quite inspiring. It is, I suppose due to my wantng to do some animation, that I of course look to the low resolution figures, and of course Posette. Although I do like certain anime, and Aiko / Hiro, are set up well for that genre. I am happy revisiting the old figures of years past and keeping them in work.

Well I am glad you got some toys to play with. Poser 6 is still a great software. I would hold with Poser 9 because there is part of the software in 2010 Pro that uses a flash and is not that great with its window to get your Poser things. So at the moment I would hang with Poser 9. As for your hard drives. I would let the 20 gigs be your software drive and the other be the runtime for your models. The runtime can pile up real quick, believe me on that one. As far as animation depending on your PC it will take time. Do it in camera edit transitions. But I hope you will be around. This site is very friendly and people will help you any way they can. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> But most of all have fun. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/thumb.gif" alt="" />

tda42, thanks for the advice, always appreciated. <br /> <br /> I thought I would try to limit myself a bit, at the moment, and play around with P6, and a small HD, as I have a bad habit for wanting everything I can get (and there is a lot around), which would mean being pre-occupied with adding to my Runtime, and not actually using Poser that much except to see how much my collection is up to (I am that bad - shame on me). <br /> <br /> Thanks for recommending to not chase after the latest Poser 2010, and sticking with what I have. To be honest what I have is more than ample for me. In fact I deliberately went after P6, for my laptop, precisely as you mention with regards to processor speed. I thought an older program being smaller should run quite well, which it does. The laptop is P4mobile @ 2.8GHZ, with 708MB (I shall upgrade the RAM to 1GB - the limit for this laptop). <br /> <br /> My intention is to stick around on this forum. I have lots to learn, and shall be happy to call PF, home.

1 gig will be fine. If you ever have a PC at your place I would use at least 2 gigs and no less. The Duo Cores are from 4 to 8 gigs these days. Always getting bigger but that's progress. LOL! But use for the Laptop you are right about that. If you are building a Poser Item at your capacity of the Laptop I would recommend making the background in to a jpg and then import it into Poser and simply place your character with it in the second render. I hope this helps you. Have fun. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Hi Chromium <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/JC_howdy.gif" alt="" /> <br /> <br /> The last Poser versions improved in the render engine, for example in indirect light, and some more in animations (feature that I don't use at the moment) but in order to render with all the jingles enabled you need a very powerful machine or you've to leave the PC in rendering for a couple of days... Till the program crashes for some memory problems... I suggest to use "render in background" or "render in queue" for the latest version, I should be wrong but they use an external process that is more stable (it never crashed here...) <br /> <br /> I think that in the first 5 versions of the program there were substantial changes, then they derailed. For example, they didn't keep the shape of the human figures but they took the Daz fashion of changing them every time when they have a different market target: DAZ needs to change shapes and textures in order not to have a retrocompatibility with the dresses (you've to buy everything again with a new model) but I don't see why Poser should do the same. <br /> <br /> But maybe there is a hidden agreement between Daz and Smithmicro, the last Poser models are so ugly that I can't save myself to think of it... <br /> <br /> We keep Posettes and Dorks in good shape btw <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/heartbeat.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/heartbeat.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/heartbeat.gif" alt="" />

tda42: <br /> Though I have read it before, if it did not get pointed out to me to save a scene as a jpeg, and then use the jpeg for a background, I would not have done it, thanks very much. I must try not to forget the good advice I get for free. <br /> <br /> With my finances, I think it would be a while before I run any Duo Core technology, and am glad for the old items I get for cheap (hardware, and software), which then let me dabble in things I may not otherwise. <br /> <br /> Tormie: <br /> Once I start doing renders (when I get something done worthy of rendering), I shall be asking for more tips for sure. <br /> <br /> I have not seen the latest Smithmicro figures, I only know of their G2 (old now) figures. Sorry, I have seen Miki 3, with her 60K+ polygon count, she looks like a pretty normal girl, still not a dent on super model Victoria, for looks, or stature. <br /> <br /> When I check out the album, I find plenty of inspiration, for using Posy, and Dork. I see they are kept alive, at PF.

tda42: Tuesday 08/03/11 at 22:12 "Hi Chromium! How is everything going with you?" <br /> <br /> All is going well. <br /> <br /> I find it all quite fun with my humble equipment. <br /> <br /> I have still yet to upgrade my little HP NX9010 laptop to 1GB RAM (708MB at the moment). I have put in the 160GB HD, and have a few partitions to confine all the items, and keep as much away from the C: drive (which slows the OS down). <br /> <br /> I have installed my Poser 6 (take 3), and have set things up nicely so it runs marginally better than Poser 7, (running without the same tweaks, on slightly better hardware- Celeron vs P4M). The headache of driver tweaks (Radeon 345M) and 3GBswitch was worth it, and I am still learning to back up everything I did for reference (install this, then that... I forget too easily). I have yet to install Carrara 5, but that can wait, I am still learning to walk, in Poser 6. <br /> <br /> I install, then decide I want to do something different then re install completely. I think I may again. I forgot somebody (tda42) gave me good advice about an external runtime, and also there is the runtime in the "Downloads", I can use that too (my plan). I think everything is coming together, maybe in a years time I may have settled enough, and have a comfortable arrangement, and do something. <br /> <br /> I have been reading lots here, and on the web too. Also cut and pasting things for my reference. <br /> <br /> I have done lots of test poses and renders. I still have not done one with Posy, as I want to practice a little more as I want my first render of her for here (so I shall want it to be worthy of posting). Still getting to grips with posing (the free Daz Studio was great for it), but I am getting there (okay, but not good - that will take more practice). <br /> <br /> I have also purchased (is that a rude word around here?) a few items (3GB). However my freebie count must be around 6GB (and growing). <br /> <br /> I am deliberately trying not to use the Daz generation 4 characters, as they slow things down a bit (that was a reason for one of the re installations). I thought I should stick with the standard figures, but keep getting distracted (I can't help it). <br /> <br /> Life keeps distracting me from Poser, but I keep coming back. PF, is a great source of inspiration, an I'm glad your all here.

<Bump> <br /> <br /> Just an update. <br /> <br /> Finally after many many months (of failure) I have managed to download the legacy content from Smithmicro. <br /> <br /> I now have: <br /> P4 Ethnic Faces, (brilliant). <br /> P5 Legacy Content, (brilliant). <br /> P6 Legacy Content, (I have P6 installed - so nothing new). <br /> P7 Legacy Content, (Edited the "Runtime" content, and my P6 has a few P7 bonuses like G2 Sydney, Ben & Kate). <br /> <br /> I did not get G2 Simon. I suppose I can't grumble with what I have. <br /> <br /> I was wearing a really stupid grin, when the serials were accepted, and the downloads appeared. <br /> <br /> Still got plenty left to do and learn.

I don't remember where G2 Simon comes from, I mean Poser 8 or 7 <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" /> ... Fact is that he is a Dork but I think that Smithmicro or Curious Labs or whoever was before them made a bad mistake changing the basic shape of the human figures beginning from version 5. I suppose they did it following Daz policy while we needed an improved Posette <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/heartbeat.gif" alt="" /> and Dork ... More Polygons, improvements on the joints and we would have been happier... <br /> <br /> There is not much for the stock figures of Poser after Poser 4, I'm sorry...

Your right about the way the creators turned their backs on Posy & Dork, they should have kept them going with better realism. Why change what isn't broke, (could Posy not have been given the same treatment as Miki?) <br /> <br /> As for the newer characters they could have been as a bonus with each new Poser release. <br /> <br /> I am grateful for the fan made Posy mods and clones. It is nice to see when the manufacturer puts an end to a products life, that the user community can keep it alive well beyond the lifespan that it was given (thank you PF). <br /> <br /> It would be nice if Smithmicro could celebrate and release a 10th anniversary updated Posy. Look at the Vw Beetle, Mini, or Fiat 500, all classics like Posy. <br /> <br /> <br /> (Unimportant note: G2 Simon was Poser 7).

You're right, there are people (and Posetteforever is a part of it <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/redembarrassed.gif" alt="" /> ) that keep the characters alive, but it's not the same thing of a big company that can spend pile of money and hire professionals. Sometimes the work of an amateur is better than something that is produced by a factory and its team, but there are only very rare cases (We've something here btw <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_whistle.gif" alt="" /> )